巔峰期的Kobe跟LBJ能互爆嗎? - NBA

By Mia
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我發現一些X迷很奇怪,
每次數據比不過就開始想用「印象」帶風向打臉
我都不知道是某迷們真的都不愛查數據還是都活在80年代不知道很多數據
現在都可以查到,或者是他們也知道查了只是證明自己錯了乾脆一切用印象?
: 結果現在LBJ跟KOBE比 LBJ從進聯盟打多少身材球 到現在也還是
說LBJ身材比較好應該要比較善用效率自然比較高我同意啊
這就像版上曾經有討論過龍利(或任何中鋒)和MJ單挑龍利應該會贏一樣
籃球就是個吃身材的運動
所以....如果迷迷們真的這樣想,那這篇文章不是早就結案了?
LBJ當然完勝KB
然而偏偏你們一方面又要說LBJ有身材優勢,一方面又在說KB比較強
這不是整個邏輯錯亂?
另外一點就是一些迷迷很喜歡強調LBJ只打體能球,
我記得當初Josh Smith進入聯盟的時候體測比LBJ還勁爆
他現在是LBJ#2嗎?NBA這樣的聯盟哪有可能靠身材吃11年的?
LBJ是聯盟裡有名的Gym rats,不是只有半夜發推特的那種球員才叫苦練
: 至於護爆的部分 LBJ的專長是轉換快攻 坦克開進去硬上 再不行就丟炸彈
: one on one本來就不是LBJ的專長 LBJ的數據有多少都是轉換快攻衝上來的大家也都知道
這數據根本很好查,LBJ在攻守轉換中厲害的是他的得分把握度高,
但是攻守轉換佔據他的得分方式根本只是wing player的聯盟平均(20%)
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/
隨便列幾個人攻守轉換占所有出手的比率
抓雞雞 29.7%
咔哇幫尬 26.0% (成功率53.4%)
鬍子 21.7%
咖喱 21.5%
LBJ 19.7% (成功率62.9%)
倒是你印象中認為LBJ不打one on one
隨便列幾個人單打占出手的比率:
鬍子 25.9%
LBJ 25.7% (你認為的弱項,成功率44.6%)
甜瓜 24.3%
安扣豬 16.9%
Kobe 20.5% (你認為的強項,成功率38.5%)
另外丟炸彈是指最後幾秒球傳給沒空檔的隊友,
LBJ很少把球傳給沒有空檔的隊友
去執行最後一擊吧,想帶風向也不是這樣
: 我是不知道真的打誰會贏 只是印象中看比賽低位LBJ根本吃不掉斷腿老科
: 數據派要噓就來吧 我準備好了
數據派根本不是重點,有些一番兩瞪眼型的數據根本就查得到
只是某迷不想查只想秀高光玩印象派
這就像幾年前一天到晚沉醉在kobe是絕殺大師的印象裡
最近幾年才越來越多統計說明他絕殺是絕殺,只是都是殺自己人
不過還有些人不死心說他都是高難度出手所以命中率低
先不論這句話本身就不符合籃球常識的打法(高難度為啥不給有低難度出手
空間的隊友投?)
現在根本也有數據顯示你每次投籃有幾個人守,這些人離你多遠等等
Kobe受到的防守待遇根本也就是一般球星的等級
更別提以前有強大禁區幫忙吸怪的年代
要噓你也不是數據派,而是噓你印象派罔顧事實
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每次數據比不過就開始想用「印象」帶風向打臉
我都不知道是某迷們真的都不愛查數據還是都活在80年代不知道很多數據
現在都可以查到,或者是他們也知道查了只是證明自己錯了乾脆一切用印象?
: 結果現在LBJ跟KOBE比 LBJ從進聯盟打多少身材球 到現在也還是
說LBJ身材比較好應該要比較善用效率自然比較高我同意啊
這就像版上曾經有討論過龍利(或任何中鋒)和MJ單挑龍利應該會贏一樣
籃球就是個吃身材的運動
所以....如果迷迷們真的這樣想,那這篇文章不是早就結案了?
LBJ當然完勝KB
然而偏偏你們一方面又要說LBJ有身材優勢,一方面又在說KB比較強
這不是整個邏輯錯亂?
另外一點就是一些迷迷很喜歡強調LBJ只打體能球,
我記得當初Josh Smith進入聯盟的時候體測比LBJ還勁爆
他現在是LBJ#2嗎?NBA這樣的聯盟哪有可能靠身材吃11年的?
LBJ是聯盟裡有名的Gym rats,不是只有半夜發推特的那種球員才叫苦練
: 至於護爆的部分 LBJ的專長是轉換快攻 坦克開進去硬上 再不行就丟炸彈
: one on one本來就不是LBJ的專長 LBJ的數據有多少都是轉換快攻衝上來的大家也都知道
這數據根本很好查,LBJ在攻守轉換中厲害的是他的得分把握度高,
但是攻守轉換佔據他的得分方式根本只是wing player的聯盟平均(20%)
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/
隨便列幾個人攻守轉換占所有出手的比率
抓雞雞 29.7%
咔哇幫尬 26.0% (成功率53.4%)
鬍子 21.7%
咖喱 21.5%
LBJ 19.7% (成功率62.9%)
倒是你印象中認為LBJ不打one on one
隨便列幾個人單打占出手的比率:
鬍子 25.9%
LBJ 25.7% (你認為的弱項,成功率44.6%)
甜瓜 24.3%
安扣豬 16.9%
Kobe 20.5% (你認為的強項,成功率38.5%)
另外丟炸彈是指最後幾秒球傳給沒空檔的隊友,
LBJ很少把球傳給沒有空檔的隊友
去執行最後一擊吧,想帶風向也不是這樣
: 我是不知道真的打誰會贏 只是印象中看比賽低位LBJ根本吃不掉斷腿老科
: 數據派要噓就來吧 我準備好了
數據派根本不是重點,有些一番兩瞪眼型的數據根本就查得到
只是某迷不想查只想秀高光玩印象派
這就像幾年前一天到晚沉醉在kobe是絕殺大師的印象裡
最近幾年才越來越多統計說明他絕殺是絕殺,只是都是殺自己人
不過還有些人不死心說他都是高難度出手所以命中率低
先不論這句話本身就不符合籃球常識的打法(高難度為啥不給有低難度出手
空間的隊友投?)
現在根本也有數據顯示你每次投籃有幾個人守,這些人離你多遠等等
Kobe受到的防守待遇根本也就是一般球星的等級
更別提以前有強大禁區幫忙吸怪的年代
要噓你也不是數據派,而是噓你印象派罔顧事實
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