女單FS-LIVE - 花式滑冰 Figure Skating
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哈囉各位新版友大家好,
因為有點爭議的結果,讓花滑板湧入了平常10倍以上的人潮。
因為台灣時間已經很晚了,就讓人在異鄉的小弟我來解釋一下這次的結果好了 XD
(我在板上應該不算最資深的,不過冰迷歷史到今年也剛好十年,
技術手冊也讀得滿熟的--所以昨天猜分才會很準 XD,應該算可以講解)
目前女單長曲的詳細打分表已經出來了,
http://www.isuresults.com/results/owg2014/owg14_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
05年之後國際滑冰總會改用新制度,
目前分數分成技術分(TES)與表現分(PCS)。
TES
技術分方面,每一個動作(跳、旋轉、步伐)都有基礎分值 (base value,簡稱BV)
這是統一規定好的。
而根據選手的執行水準,可以再給予-3 ~ +3的執行分 (grade of execution, goe)
另外,跳躍方面,如果旋轉周數不足,不足90度以下的會被標 "<",分數會打折扣,
如果不足180度的就會被標"<<",降組 (三轉跳變成兩轉,兩轉變一轉,分數直接跳水)
有些跳躍起跳會規定要用冰刀的內刃或外刃,如果用刃有瑕疵則會被標"e" 一樣扣分
PCS
表現分方面,
以單人滑來說,
分成五個小分(SS,TR,PE,CH,IN),分別代表滑行技巧、銜接、表現執行、編舞、詮釋。
每一個裁判在每一個小分上分別以滿分10分為基礎打分
最後的表現分結果則是依照所有裁判的打分值來計算。
最後的總分則是以TES+PCS來計算。
[此次給分分析]
打開計分表,我們以A和KIM兩人比較,
技術分的BV,其實YUNA就輸將近4分了,
因為YUNA有兩個項目 (StSq, LSp)(step sequence步伐,跟layback spin後仰旋轉)
的定級只有上3級,沒有到4級。
於是唯一有爭議的地方剩下技術分的GOE部分,跟表現分部分。
今天AS技術動作完成的的確很好,GOE分數就我而言沒什麼爭議。
KIM以往的GOE是她分數的重要來源,但這幾年練習少,比賽也少,加上年紀問題,
完成的動作質量的確不如以往。這裡也算是還可以接受。
表現分,大體上KIM的分數都比較高,這點沒有問題,
但是真要說的話,二號裁判給KIM的分數都在7-8之間,
有明顯壓分嫌疑 (跟其他人給KIM的分數一比就很明顯)。
至於AS的表現分,的確炒熱氣氛是有,但是以花式滑冰的打分標準,
這個不得不說灌水是有點誇張。
但是所有裁判都灌成一片,這也只能說是現場地主優勢,氣氛就壓過人了...
表現分的打分,就算是在新制也是很主觀,也是為人詬病的地方。
至於MAO ASADA,她兩個跳都被 "<"打折,
雖然看起來沒有跌倒,但是就是有周數不足的問題。
另外,因為出場順序較前面,表現分自然受到影響,也會稍低一點。
只能說昨天短曲沒有把握好,可惜了...
如果她在最後一組的話,長曲分數應該會比YUNA高沒有問題。
===
總之,歡迎大家加入欣賞花滑的行列 XD
這個新的打分標準可能需要稍微研究一下,
不然如果只看帳面上的有沒有不穩或摔倒可能就會判斷失準。
詳細的規則可以上ISU(國際滑冰聯盟)來看,
有些詳細的規定因為很複雜,包括圈數、秒數、還有很多專有動作名,我就不列了 XD
希望這篇文章可以幫助大家入門,
稍稍看懂「為什麼會是這樣」,還有即使覺得不公平,也至少要知道「不公平在哪裡」。
這樣才能夠在更有共識的基礎上討論滑冰比賽的結果 :)
還有問題的歡迎推文,我相信資深版友都會很樂意回答的,
因為版主常常神隱(XD),就讓小弟我來代替她歡迎大家進入花式滑冰的世界吧 :)!
--
因為有點爭議的結果,讓花滑板湧入了平常10倍以上的人潮。
因為台灣時間已經很晚了,就讓人在異鄉的小弟我來解釋一下這次的結果好了 XD
(我在板上應該不算最資深的,不過冰迷歷史到今年也剛好十年,
技術手冊也讀得滿熟的--所以昨天猜分才會很準 XD,應該算可以講解)
目前女單長曲的詳細打分表已經出來了,
http://www.isuresults.com/results/owg2014/owg14_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
05年之後國際滑冰總會改用新制度,
目前分數分成技術分(TES)與表現分(PCS)。
TES
技術分方面,每一個動作(跳、旋轉、步伐)都有基礎分值 (base value,簡稱BV)
這是統一規定好的。
而根據選手的執行水準,可以再給予-3 ~ +3的執行分 (grade of execution, goe)
另外,跳躍方面,如果旋轉周數不足,不足90度以下的會被標 "<",分數會打折扣,
如果不足180度的就會被標"<<",降組 (三轉跳變成兩轉,兩轉變一轉,分數直接跳水)
有些跳躍起跳會規定要用冰刀的內刃或外刃,如果用刃有瑕疵則會被標"e" 一樣扣分
PCS
表現分方面,
以單人滑來說,
分成五個小分(SS,TR,PE,CH,IN),分別代表滑行技巧、銜接、表現執行、編舞、詮釋。
每一個裁判在每一個小分上分別以滿分10分為基礎打分
最後的表現分結果則是依照所有裁判的打分值來計算。
最後的總分則是以TES+PCS來計算。
[此次給分分析]
打開計分表,我們以A和KIM兩人比較,
技術分的BV,其實YUNA就輸將近4分了,
因為YUNA有兩個項目 (StSq, LSp)(step sequence步伐,跟layback spin後仰旋轉)
的定級只有上3級,沒有到4級。
於是唯一有爭議的地方剩下技術分的GOE部分,跟表現分部分。
今天AS技術動作完成的的確很好,GOE分數就我而言沒什麼爭議。
KIM以往的GOE是她分數的重要來源,但這幾年練習少,比賽也少,加上年紀問題,
完成的動作質量的確不如以往。這裡也算是還可以接受。
表現分,大體上KIM的分數都比較高,這點沒有問題,
但是真要說的話,二號裁判給KIM的分數都在7-8之間,
有明顯壓分嫌疑 (跟其他人給KIM的分數一比就很明顯)。
至於AS的表現分,的確炒熱氣氛是有,但是以花式滑冰的打分標準,
這個不得不說灌水是有點誇張。
但是所有裁判都灌成一片,這也只能說是現場地主優勢,氣氛就壓過人了...
表現分的打分,就算是在新制也是很主觀,也是為人詬病的地方。
至於MAO ASADA,她兩個跳都被 "<"打折,
雖然看起來沒有跌倒,但是就是有周數不足的問題。
另外,因為出場順序較前面,表現分自然受到影響,也會稍低一點。
只能說昨天短曲沒有把握好,可惜了...
如果她在最後一組的話,長曲分數應該會比YUNA高沒有問題。
===
總之,歡迎大家加入欣賞花滑的行列 XD
這個新的打分標準可能需要稍微研究一下,
不然如果只看帳面上的有沒有不穩或摔倒可能就會判斷失準。
詳細的規則可以上ISU(國際滑冰聯盟)來看,
有些詳細的規定因為很複雜,包括圈數、秒數、還有很多專有動作名,我就不列了 XD
希望這篇文章可以幫助大家入門,
稍稍看懂「為什麼會是這樣」,還有即使覺得不公平,也至少要知道「不公平在哪裡」。
這樣才能夠在更有共識的基礎上討論滑冰比賽的結果 :)
還有問題的歡迎推文,我相信資深版友都會很樂意回答的,
因為版主常常神隱(XD),就讓小弟我來代替她歡迎大家進入花式滑冰的世界吧 :)!
--
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