大滿貫數/球王週數/年終球王 TOP5 - 網球 Tennis
By Anonymous
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我覺得之前會被酸費二板的時期情況比較像是
1. 納GS快追上 -> 還要看球王週數、年終賽冠軍、各場地GS數等等;阿都靠紅土刷啦
2. 囧GS快追上 -> 阿還好幾年,先追上再說啦;囧崛起的時候剛好費納下滑啦;
後面都沒納囧這種等級的新世代竄起來啦
3. 莫 -> 嗯...好啦辛苦了,髖關節好好照顧健康就好
大概是這樣的套路
不過也是不少人酸什麼費靠weak era刷或H2H輸之類的
反正我納迷覺得如果最後記錄各有領先
就當作Big3算GOATS就好
吵這麼多幹嘛XD
※ 引述《fedirk1741 (一劍西來 天外飛仙)》之銘言:
: 這段根本就是瞎扯一通,說啥創造GOAT標準的是費,那在費之前就沒有GOAT囉?
: 在費之前的GOAT討論通常是Sampras或Rod Laver,
: Sampras會被認為是GOAT最有利的點就是他有當時最多的14GS,Laver則是兩度全滿貫,
: 而費哪時候開始被認為是GOAT的? 09法網他追平Sampras的14GS+ 生涯全滿貫,
: 那時候費哪來大幅領先山?還是你要說納09年就可以加入GOAT的討論?
: 本來GOAT的第一標準就是GS數量,在相同或接近才會考量其他成就的加乘,
: 這標準到底干費啥事,費也是跟著標準才被認為是GOAT的,
: 就跟納拿了20GS,大家開始討論他跟費誰是GOAT一樣
: 這邊說的也有問題,H2H就絕對不可能是費迷提出來的點,要說也是費黑或納迷,
: 費一直以來最被攻擊的點就是H2H不如納,這點哪會有費迷提出來自打嘴巴?
: 大師賽冠軍也是,早在不知道幾年前大師賽冠軍最多就是納囧在爭了,
: 哪個費迷會拿這個出來當標準說費是GOAT?
: 誰的價值被刻意拉抬了?費確實贏了20GS,球王310週,講出來也算拉抬喔
: 大家說費納囧都是GOATs,可是目前GS數是20:20:17,
: 所以你想說那些說囧是GOAT的人刻意拉抬囧的17GS強行視為跟20GS一樣,
: 對費納不公平這樣嗎?就到今天為止,費納囧各有強點,很難硬要分高下,
: 各自也都有多項難破的紀錄,講他們三人並列GOATs已經是很溫和的說法了,
: 結果你還要嫌對其他兩個不公平,這樣不就是要來引戰的意思嗎?
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1. 納GS快追上 -> 還要看球王週數、年終賽冠軍、各場地GS數等等;阿都靠紅土刷啦
2. 囧GS快追上 -> 阿還好幾年,先追上再說啦;囧崛起的時候剛好費納下滑啦;
後面都沒納囧這種等級的新世代竄起來啦
3. 莫 -> 嗯...好啦辛苦了,髖關節好好照顧健康就好
大概是這樣的套路
不過也是不少人酸什麼費靠weak era刷或H2H輸之類的
反正我納迷覺得如果最後記錄各有領先
就當作Big3算GOATS就好
吵這麼多幹嘛XD
※ 引述《fedirk1741 (一劍西來 天外飛仙)》之銘言:
: 這段根本就是瞎扯一通,說啥創造GOAT標準的是費,那在費之前就沒有GOAT囉?
: 在費之前的GOAT討論通常是Sampras或Rod Laver,
: Sampras會被認為是GOAT最有利的點就是他有當時最多的14GS,Laver則是兩度全滿貫,
: 而費哪時候開始被認為是GOAT的? 09法網他追平Sampras的14GS+ 生涯全滿貫,
: 那時候費哪來大幅領先山?還是你要說納09年就可以加入GOAT的討論?
: 本來GOAT的第一標準就是GS數量,在相同或接近才會考量其他成就的加乘,
: 這標準到底干費啥事,費也是跟著標準才被認為是GOAT的,
: 就跟納拿了20GS,大家開始討論他跟費誰是GOAT一樣
: 這邊說的也有問題,H2H就絕對不可能是費迷提出來的點,要說也是費黑或納迷,
: 費一直以來最被攻擊的點就是H2H不如納,這點哪會有費迷提出來自打嘴巴?
: 大師賽冠軍也是,早在不知道幾年前大師賽冠軍最多就是納囧在爭了,
: 哪個費迷會拿這個出來當標準說費是GOAT?
: 誰的價值被刻意拉抬了?費確實贏了20GS,球王310週,講出來也算拉抬喔
: 大家說費納囧都是GOATs,可是目前GS數是20:20:17,
: 所以你想說那些說囧是GOAT的人刻意拉抬囧的17GS強行視為跟20GS一樣,
: 對費納不公平這樣嗎?就到今天為止,費納囧各有強點,很難硬要分高下,
: 各自也都有多項難破的紀錄,講他們三人並列GOATs已經是很溫和的說法了,
: 結果你還要嫌對其他兩個不公平,這樣不就是要來引戰的意思嗎?
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