大家是在捧殺李振昌嗎? - 棒球

By Yuri
at 2018-07-29T13:28
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※ 引述《mooto (退出會比較好, 就退出)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《uyrmb47 ()》之銘言:
: : 說真的我從一開始就看好
: : 而且覺得邦應該選他而不是選新人
: : 我不知道邦哪來的信心養人
: : 3~4年來養的人一蹋糊塗
: : 何況選來也不知道能用多久
: : ccl快32歲 至少到35歲可能跟倪福德一樣都還是很好用的牛棚
: : 4年頂級牛棚有多好用 看看mlb對於鐵牛的合約就知道了
: : 中職選秀到中後輪都打得出來 只是看球隊養成的差別
: : 球隊爛就是選秀選近來 1軍上不來而已
: 看到很多人說 邦邦打線不好 選CCL也是當裝飾
: 真的如此嗎?
: 首先 選走CCL的是牛棚戰力最差的中信
: 就拿昨晚的比賽來講 如果第八九局 我爪對上CCL 大概也是直接下班
: 那可能演變成 4:3 到九局面對邦邦345棒
你這根本結果論
昨天被拉開的投手是誰?
如果CCL來富邦 定位是終結者 昨天真的會被派上去嗎?
如果會
那昨天第九局上場的就是土地公 不是阿樂續投了
後攻球隊 落後一分 下一局輪到中心打線
確實是有上終結者的選項
小葉可能因為之前土地公連用四場被罵翻 現在反而不敢用了
不過差一分 落後 本來就有些教練會用 有些不會
昨天這選擇沒什麼太大問題
阿樂也是先拿兩個出局數 第三出局抓不到 被詹打一個全壘打 只能說詹很強
該給他拍拍手
: 以我爪牛棚現狀 理事長都差一點把CCL扛出去了 其他人....
: 再來 邦的牛棚雖然還不錯 但也說不上是鐵
: 下半季還是有幾場BS的
: 打擊已經如此貧弱 換個方向來想 把原本80分的投手點到90分也是個方向
: (疑 這樣不就變成下半季喵喵了 不過至少勝率還維持5成)
: 以對戰成績來說 下半季邦邦對喵略贏
富邦牛棚確實不夠鐵 但相比野手的打擊表現在聯盟墊底
富邦牛棚的成績在聯盟中 已經算是很好了
這就是事實
: 完全是栽在曇花一現的我爪 捉爪放吱就好了
: 邦打擊看似打不出來 其實只是比較骰
: 論整體打擊實力 爪的內野就先讓一半
: 氣勢打順 得分自然來 打教甚麼的也就不會是短期內必須解決的問題
: 如果季初的3ACE跟吸收五虎是為了win now
: 季中選秀策略就不該突然轉彎
: 這樣只會兩頭空而已
: 養成並沒有比調整現役來的簡單
: 現役都調不好 把戰績寄託在未來養成也是不切實際
: 當初西瓜選即戰力被批敗筆的情況跟現在不一樣
: 西瓜為了win now 選了一堆可能即戰力
: 那時候的爪 打擊已經頂天 投手沒救 守備放著爛
: 但沒有即戰力投手可以選來救 說穿了只是打擊錦上添花
: 而且有陳子豪的例子 所以才有不如選小鮮肉的聲音
不要再舒服我邦 然後一直自嘲兄弟了
兄弟並不是曇花一現 上半季的尾端其實表現很好
對富邦也是一波連勝 還延續到下半季
很多球迷 包括邦迷 這季從開季前就一路都在嘲笑兄弟 但我一點都不敢
因為我不覺得兄弟有什麼好笑的 也不覺得兄弟真的有這麼差
(兄弟有很多年輕打擊好手 牛棚投手群確實相對比較不穩
但先發投手也練出了陳琥跟志龍大哥 看看富邦養出了什麼樣的土投先發吧
有嗎?)
自以為富邦很強 才是真的好笑
確實 富邦這一季補上不少即戰力 也搶到了兩個新的強力洋投
不過 棒球又不是紙上談兵 把戰力擺上去就一定能贏
更別說要打出好的成績
不是說的那麼簡單 也不是戰力評估的那麼簡單
如果真是看紙上戰力就能決定結果
那2016拿冠軍的就是兄弟 而不是義大了
好的球員 也要有好的教練團來帶
好的球團 也要有好的領隊去規劃球隊的未來
很多環節都是要一起配合才能有好的結果的
富邦球團很努力 用心經營 把能的都做好 但他們不能控制球員在場上會不會低級失誤
領隊+制服組規畫了球隊的未來 選定了選秀的方針 但他們不能保證教練團是否會養
能不能養成功
也不知道教練團是否能把堆在一起的好材料 炒出一盤好菜來
人人都說富邦搶了五虎將+兩洋投 戰力飛天 肯定冠軍 變成宇宙邦
但卻沒考慮到 球員們+教練團 整體的整合 磨合好 才會有好的結果
可是 富邦教練團 這季的調度跟調整球員的能力 真的連邦迷自己都一直搖頭
很多原本很挺教練團的(包括我) 這季都非常失望 開始感到反感
小葉調度失序 常常出現大家看不懂得調度 以及 打線安排
打者的打擊狀況完全調整不起來
牛棚跟先發年輕土投的投球狀況也是超級差
打教跟投手教練完全沒有辦法解決這種困境
單單比較球員戰力 富邦可能真的很好
但事實卻是 加上了教練團
目前的結果就是上半季第三 下半季墊底
淪落為墊底之爭
--
: ※ 引述《uyrmb47 ()》之銘言:
: : 說真的我從一開始就看好
: : 而且覺得邦應該選他而不是選新人
: : 我不知道邦哪來的信心養人
: : 3~4年來養的人一蹋糊塗
: : 何況選來也不知道能用多久
: : ccl快32歲 至少到35歲可能跟倪福德一樣都還是很好用的牛棚
: : 4年頂級牛棚有多好用 看看mlb對於鐵牛的合約就知道了
: : 中職選秀到中後輪都打得出來 只是看球隊養成的差別
: : 球隊爛就是選秀選近來 1軍上不來而已
: 看到很多人說 邦邦打線不好 選CCL也是當裝飾
: 真的如此嗎?
: 首先 選走CCL的是牛棚戰力最差的中信
: 就拿昨晚的比賽來講 如果第八九局 我爪對上CCL 大概也是直接下班
: 那可能演變成 4:3 到九局面對邦邦345棒
你這根本結果論
昨天被拉開的投手是誰?
如果CCL來富邦 定位是終結者 昨天真的會被派上去嗎?
如果會
那昨天第九局上場的就是土地公 不是阿樂續投了
後攻球隊 落後一分 下一局輪到中心打線
確實是有上終結者的選項
小葉可能因為之前土地公連用四場被罵翻 現在反而不敢用了
不過差一分 落後 本來就有些教練會用 有些不會
昨天這選擇沒什麼太大問題
阿樂也是先拿兩個出局數 第三出局抓不到 被詹打一個全壘打 只能說詹很強
該給他拍拍手
: 以我爪牛棚現狀 理事長都差一點把CCL扛出去了 其他人....
: 再來 邦的牛棚雖然還不錯 但也說不上是鐵
: 下半季還是有幾場BS的
: 打擊已經如此貧弱 換個方向來想 把原本80分的投手點到90分也是個方向
: (疑 這樣不就變成下半季喵喵了 不過至少勝率還維持5成)
: 以對戰成績來說 下半季邦邦對喵略贏
富邦牛棚確實不夠鐵 但相比野手的打擊表現在聯盟墊底
富邦牛棚的成績在聯盟中 已經算是很好了
這就是事實
: 完全是栽在曇花一現的我爪 捉爪放吱就好了
: 邦打擊看似打不出來 其實只是比較骰
: 論整體打擊實力 爪的內野就先讓一半
: 氣勢打順 得分自然來 打教甚麼的也就不會是短期內必須解決的問題
: 如果季初的3ACE跟吸收五虎是為了win now
: 季中選秀策略就不該突然轉彎
: 這樣只會兩頭空而已
: 養成並沒有比調整現役來的簡單
: 現役都調不好 把戰績寄託在未來養成也是不切實際
: 當初西瓜選即戰力被批敗筆的情況跟現在不一樣
: 西瓜為了win now 選了一堆可能即戰力
: 那時候的爪 打擊已經頂天 投手沒救 守備放著爛
: 但沒有即戰力投手可以選來救 說穿了只是打擊錦上添花
: 而且有陳子豪的例子 所以才有不如選小鮮肉的聲音
不要再舒服我邦 然後一直自嘲兄弟了
兄弟並不是曇花一現 上半季的尾端其實表現很好
對富邦也是一波連勝 還延續到下半季
很多球迷 包括邦迷 這季從開季前就一路都在嘲笑兄弟 但我一點都不敢
因為我不覺得兄弟有什麼好笑的 也不覺得兄弟真的有這麼差
(兄弟有很多年輕打擊好手 牛棚投手群確實相對比較不穩
但先發投手也練出了陳琥跟志龍大哥 看看富邦養出了什麼樣的土投先發吧
有嗎?)
自以為富邦很強 才是真的好笑
確實 富邦這一季補上不少即戰力 也搶到了兩個新的強力洋投
不過 棒球又不是紙上談兵 把戰力擺上去就一定能贏
更別說要打出好的成績
不是說的那麼簡單 也不是戰力評估的那麼簡單
如果真是看紙上戰力就能決定結果
那2016拿冠軍的就是兄弟 而不是義大了
好的球員 也要有好的教練團來帶
好的球團 也要有好的領隊去規劃球隊的未來
很多環節都是要一起配合才能有好的結果的
富邦球團很努力 用心經營 把能的都做好 但他們不能控制球員在場上會不會低級失誤
領隊+制服組規畫了球隊的未來 選定了選秀的方針 但他們不能保證教練團是否會養
能不能養成功
也不知道教練團是否能把堆在一起的好材料 炒出一盤好菜來
人人都說富邦搶了五虎將+兩洋投 戰力飛天 肯定冠軍 變成宇宙邦
但卻沒考慮到 球員們+教練團 整體的整合 磨合好 才會有好的結果
可是 富邦教練團 這季的調度跟調整球員的能力 真的連邦迷自己都一直搖頭
很多原本很挺教練團的(包括我) 這季都非常失望 開始感到反感
小葉調度失序 常常出現大家看不懂得調度 以及 打線安排
打者的打擊狀況完全調整不起來
牛棚跟先發年輕土投的投球狀況也是超級差
打教跟投手教練完全沒有辦法解決這種困境
單單比較球員戰力 富邦可能真的很好
但事實卻是 加上了教練團
目前的結果就是上半季第三 下半季墊底
淪落為墊底之爭
--
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