在我們爭奪Kluber出局後 取得SP偏好順序 - 美國職棒

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By Zora
at 2019-12-16T02:14

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原文title是
How would you rank our options for acquiring starting pitching now that we're
out on Kluber?

原文網址:https://reurl.cc/72NjG5

I’d say

1)
Sign Keuchel - super durable, tons of groundballs, not too pricey, though
velocity drop is worrisome.
開口 - 耐操、超多滾地球,要價不會太高雖然速度下降令人擔憂。

2)
Sign Ryu - more expensive, injury history is scary, but much higher upside and
a chance he’s not insanely expensive bc of injury concerns
柳 - 比開口貴一些,可怕的傷病史,但是表現可能比開口還好,而且他不會貴的離譜
因為他的傷病史。

3)
Trade for Price - 3 year commitment, will be 36 when the contract is up,
probably gonna be ~$20 million a year, some injury concern, but still has elite
strikeout ability and a 122 ERA+ since 2017. Won’t have to give up more
valuable prospects
價格 - 三年的合約,合約到期時36歲,可能會要襪襪吃點薪水,我們大概每年付20M鎂
雖然也有傷病疑慮,但是他自從2017以來都還保有出色的K功&122ERA+,此外也
不需要花太多有價值的新秀就能取得。

4)
Trade for Jon Gray - will cost a lot of young talent (probably two of Marsh/
Sandoval/Fletch), but has a career 3.77 FIP while pitching at Coors half the
time, worth 4 WAR last season
葛雷 - 代價是大量新秀(可能是Marsh / Sandoval / Fletch三取二),但他生涯保有
3.77FIP,而且一半時間是在庫兒濕球場比賽,上賽季戰鬥指數高達4

5)
Sign Bumgarner - 200+ innings guaranteed, still gets Ks and has elite command,
but gives up 1.6 HR/9 outside of SF with ERA estimators around 5. Will cost $
100 million and a draft pick.
瘋邦 - 保證吃200+局,仍擁有優秀的三振能力以及控球能力,但是客場的HR/9是1.6同時
ERA在5上下。而且要價是100M跟一個補償選秀籤。
※由於簽下軟洞,我們下個損失的補償選秀籤是第三輪選秀籤。
6)
Sign some cheap lotto ticket (Taijuan Walker, Alex Wood, Wade Miley, Gio
Gonzalez, etc.) - yeah, I think we’ve tried this enough lately
簽一堆樂透(Taijuan Walker, Alex Wood, Wade Miley, Gio Gonzalez, etc.)
但是今年買的全都摃龜了...

我個人是覺得嘗試交易Gray&簽下開口是個好選擇,在簽下軟洞之後,現在內野防守會讓
滾地球投手很舒服,Jon Gray的滾飛比今年也上升到1.75,生涯是1.31,而且是逐年上升

希望下個禮拜能有點進展...

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All Comments

Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2019-12-17T10:00
用一個優質牛棚 + 打擊一般的中外換到Kluber..
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2019-12-18T17:46
不過我猜八成笑臉包裹一定要Jo-A...作夢
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2019-12-20T01:32
蛇蛇的Ray 不知道有沒有機會交易
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2019-12-21T09:18
知道我們很缺投手 可能會開價高一點
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2019-12-22T17:04
但如果Kluber交易主菜就是目前提到的,笑臉人粉絲很值得
生氣一下...
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2019-12-24T00:49
希望明早就能看到天使簽投手新聞QQ
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2019-12-25T08:35
瘋邦沒啦...
David avatar
By David
at 2019-12-26T16:21
笑臉要求至少兩個大聯盟的選手
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2019-12-28T00:07
瘋邦意外便宜 還以為會被炒到一億
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2019-12-29T07:53
MadBum 要丟選秀/健康/看起來在走下坡 可能是沒衝的理由
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2019-12-30T15:39
笑臉要 Brandon Marsh 跟另一個前十作物 太貴
Kluber在退化了...
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2019-12-31T23:25
笑臉很扯欸 跟天使要那麼多 跟遊騎兵要那樣?
根本來鬧的吧
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2020-01-02T07:11
因為全聯盟都知道我們要投手啊 XD
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2020-01-03T14:57
不過不跟我覺得是正確的就是了...
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2020-01-04T22:43
薛盤子(O
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2020-01-06T06:29
柳至少要4Y80M 大家怎麼看?我覺得4年不行
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-01-07T14:15
比瘋邦貴...
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2020-01-08T22:00
柳這價碼pass
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2020-01-10T05:46
補了Julio Teheran 一年9M 再來補個開口收工
柳就pass吧
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2020-01-11T13:32
目前也有跟老虎談Boyd 但要價應該也不低
James avatar
By James
at 2020-01-12T21:18
我覺得柳就一年行情...不如拿開口...
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-01-14T05:04
柳我是怕他的傷病史跟年紀
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2020-01-15T12:50
話說Maldonado回太空人 市場上好像沒啥捕手了
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2020-01-16T20:36
簽下Neil Ramirez 今年待笑臉人跟藍鳥 era5.4
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2020-01-18T04:22
小聯盟約?翻推特沒看到多少
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2020-01-19T12:08
小聯盟約沒錯
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2020-01-20T19:54
現在沒消沒息的,FA在等球員降價嘛?
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2020-01-22T03:40
感謝 牛棚抽福袋 應該還會補個開口/柳
Boras想要幫柳爭個4y80Mup 還在凹吧
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-01-23T11:26
開口去白襪了....
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2020-01-24T19:11
開口4y74m 感覺柳真的要80m了……
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2020-01-26T02:57
啊 不對 3y55m 比我預期的50m高一點而已
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2020-01-27T10:43
柳也沒有的話 換笑臉Clevinger吧 這次兩隻前十給了
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2020-01-28T18:29
clevinger兩個換不到吧?Kluber都對我們開兩個了
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2020-01-30T02:15
我是覺得現在拿到柳的代價越來越高 不如開福袋算了
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-01-31T10:01
Alex Wood左投中大獎機會最大?
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2020-02-01T17:47
Adell不出去換不到clevinger
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2020-02-03T01:33
出Adell可能還不夠..
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2020-02-04T09:19
4 Adell還要其他的 他今年ERA2.71 22才FA
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-02-05T17:05
福袋就隨緣吧 看推特講Eppler想要耐操的
George avatar
By George
at 2020-02-07T00:51
今年福袋耐戰度太差了
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2020-02-08T08:37
只能靠交易或繼續開福袋了
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2020-02-09T16:22
不管怎樣現在還要起碼兩隻投手,下季才有搞頭
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2020-02-11T00:08
尤其下個球季歐塔尼可能會有投球數限制
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2020-02-12T07:54
Heaney/Ohtani/Teheran/Bundy/Canning 其中 Canning&
歐塔尼我都不太看好能扛整季
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2020-02-13T15:40
大谷最晚5月才會先發投球 悲觀點算100局就好
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2020-02-14T23:26
我最怕Heaney痛痛 感覺機會頗高
William avatar
By William
at 2020-02-16T07:12
新來的兩個看起來能吃一定局數 剩下就不多求了
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2020-02-17T14:58
Heaney除了18年真的吃太少局數了
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2020-02-18T22:44
隨便買個一打福袋回來抽好了,我覺得柳胖痛痛的風險太
高!Boras也一定會獅子大開口,要是綁個4、5年卻一直痛
,倒不如福袋每年抽,抽到一個大獎就回本了!
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2020-02-20T06:30
https://reurl.cc/Na8196 福袋一覽 其實也可抽自家年輕
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2020-02-21T14:16
小福袋 Sandoval Suarez Barria
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2020-02-22T22:02
Suarez續航力要加強...
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2020-02-24T05:48
柳4Y80M 還好沒跟 剩下等開福袋
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-02-25T13:33
Boras大滿貫...滿手賽揚
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2020-02-26T21:19
嚴格來說是滿手的頂二號...
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2020-02-28T05:05
錢可以省下來去抽好多好多福袋了
William avatar
By William
at 2020-02-29T12:51
有多少薪資可用
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2020-03-01T20:37
FG預估174M 還滿多空間的
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2020-03-03T04:23
突然覺得陳偉殷好像還可以 慘
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2020-03-04T12:09
簽偉殷不錯,Fox天使台
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2020-03-05T19:55
有大谷就天使台了 我覺得多一個偉殷差不多XD
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2020-03-07T03:41
超市鱒去響尾蛇
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-03-08T11:27
阿斗上BA封面欸各位新年快樂
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-03-09T19:13
新年快樂 Eppler趕快開個福袋當新年禮物吧XD
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2020-03-11T02:59
Alex Wood感覺可以賭一下
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2020-03-12T10:44
新年快樂 趕快補投手吧
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-03-13T18:30
終於買到捕手了 Jason Castro 1y/6.85M
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-03-15T02:16
剩下投手補一補就完工了
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2020-03-16T10:02
水哦 是castro
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2020-03-17T17:48
從馬大魚捕隻RP
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2020-03-19T01:34
The #Angels picked up reliever Kyle Keller toda
y. He had a 3.38 ERA in 10 games with the Marli
ns (11 K, 8 BB, 10.2 IP). Career 3.53 ERA and 1
2.0 K/9 in minors. He’s 26.
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-03-20T09:20
目前在談克雷文哲 可是感覺沒出Adell換不到
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-03-21T17:06
至少Adell+Marsh吧 單一個Adell我覺得人家不會點頭
James avatar
By James
at 2020-03-23T00:52
我傾向開福袋就是了 不過boyd也跟我們要Adell 扯
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2020-03-24T08:38
換的到的話就換吧,只是有點蠢,畢竟Clevinger是從我們這
邊出去的LUL,另外現在往後幾年大概除了Bauer也沒有年紀
恰當有Ace Stuff的SP,相較SP,OF好補多了...
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2020-03-25T16:24
Pestano ->Clevinger->Adell ....
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2020-03-27T00:10
換? 現在RF清出來就是準備要給Adell上了 換什麼?
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2020-03-28T07:55
2021兩年FA的投手 比較符合我們需求的應該是Bauer
stroman Syndergaard 20深度不夠
雖然有我很愛的Hendricks 21賽揚海 可惜老了
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2020-03-29T15:41
啊 不對 Hendricks好像被綁了 20深度更悲劇
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2020-03-30T23:27
FA目前還有Osuna Castellanos Puig 外野的缺其實還能補 但
是Ace stuff的投手真的很難找 不過好不容易貧瘠的農場養出
百大前五的新秀 拿去換還是會捨不得
John avatar
By John
at 2020-04-01T07:13
去開幾個福袋吧 反正ace的我覺得也救不多先發多少
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2020-04-02T14:59
Jake Jewell被巨人撿走 為了清位置他們把Cozart DFA了
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-04-03T22:45
Cozart痛了兩年 不曉得會不會有其他球隊撿
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2020-04-05T06:31
沒神木了,感覺還少隻SP才能開季吧
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2020-04-06T14:17
我是想要Nova 能吃局數而且超便宜的QQ
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2020-04-07T22:03
我們家百大上了兩個 Adell跟Marsh
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-04-09T05:49
靠背 襪襪躲人交易的第三隊可能是我們
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2020-04-10T13:35
確定城城 看起來跟我們無關
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2020-04-11T21:21
Joc Pederson換Rengifo
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2020-04-13T05:06
聊勝於無 :q
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2020-04-14T12:52
補上左手的Slugger還不錯 不然主力打線幾乎都是右手
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2020-04-15T20:38
可惜沒把前田騙來
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-04-17T04:24
台灣Walker不知道有沒有機會簽來當福袋
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2020-04-18T12:10
沒前田可惜+1
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2020-04-19T19:56
雙城出了百大no53的新秀 我們能出的頂多就Marsh
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2020-04-21T03:42
臺灣Walker很痛 我們還是別碰了
不然就是Pederson+Marsh看能不能換到什麼
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-04-22T11:28
Ross Stripling get 終於有先發了 淚流滿面
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-04-23T19:14
你們給道奇的新秀應該不錯,這兩個不便宜
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2020-04-25T03:00
我猜不是Marsh 感覺是首輪
George avatar
By George
at 2020-04-26T10:46
Pederson+Andy Pages+Stripling <->Rengifo+??
有消息重申不會出到頂級新秀 那是要貼錢解決??
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2020-04-27T18:32
FG百大我們有三個進 Adell4 Marsh36 Adams79
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2020-04-29T02:17
簽下之前綠帽的一人左Butcher 今年改規則了不知道還能不能
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2020-04-30T10:03
反正左手牛 用用看ㄅ
好贏贏下薪資仲裁 明年220W

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