喬丹完美6/6決賽記錄過譽了 - NBA

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By Ina
at 2017-05-27T09:31

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5 reasons Michael Jordan’s perfect 6-for-6 Finals record is overrated
五個原因,喬丹的6-6決賽記錄其實是過譽的

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NBA Finals: Michael Jordan ‘grossly overrated’, writes FOX Sports US’s
Andrew Lynch, LeBron comparison
喬丹明顯過譽了


Michael Jordan's undefeated NBA Finals record is one of the most astonishing
accomplishments in all of professional sports.
喬丹決賽未敗的記錄在所有職業運動中是很驚人的成就

It's also grossly overrated.
但是它也很明顯的過譽了

We lionize Jordan as unquestionably the greatest of all time because he went
6-for-6 for six in championship series, but we forget the context — and we
use that perfect record as the ultimate cudgel in the battle between Jordan
and LeBron James.
因為他決賽6/6的完美記錄,我們把喬丹當作史上最偉大的球員,而我們總是把這個
記錄當作最終武器來對抗詹姆斯和喬丹間的爭鬥

No matter how great The King might be, he can never ascend to His Airness'
throne. LeBron lost in the Finals (multiple times!), and Jordan didn't. End
of story — assuming you hate the slightest bit of nuance in your life.
不管大管大帝詹姆斯有多麼的偉大,他永遠無法登上籃球的王座,因為他在決賽輸太
多次了,而喬丹卻沒有。故事結束

Truly, Jordan was extraordinarily great. Yet as impressive as Jordan's legacy
is, there are five reasons you might be overlooking LeBron to celebrate MJ.
確實,喬丹是傑出的偉大,但同樣於他的偉大,你可能也忽略了姆斯的偉大,以下有
五個原因:

原因一: 1990年的防守並沒有那麼好
As physical as 1990s defenses were, they weren't all that good

People like to pretend Michael Jordan would average 50 points per game in the
modern NBA because of the lack of a hand-checking rule.
人們總是喜歡認為喬丹到現在可以得到50分,因為不能hand-checking

They conveniently ignore that the elimination of hand-checking wasn't the
only defensive rule change in the early 2000s. The NBA also modified the
illegal defense rule, allowing teams to play hybrid man-zone scheme all over
the court.
他們很簡單的忽個了hand-checking不是在2000初期改變的防守規則。NBA也修改了
非法防守規則,允許隊伍使用大量的區域聯防

That change affected post players big and small — from the likes of
Shaquille O'Neal to, yes, His Airness. Defenses could now send a soft
double-team at you before you even caught the ball, instead of having to wait
to help under the old rules.
這個改變影響了低位的大小球員-包括了歐尼爾。防守者可以你在接觸球前就開始
包夾。而根據舊規則,你必須要等到對方拿到了球才可以包他

Schemes became more sophisticated, thanks to visionaries such as Tom
Thibodeau and Gregg Popovich. Teams defended areas of the floor, taking away
scoring superstars' comfort zones.
因為Thibodeau和Popo,體制變得更成熟。球隊防守著球場上每個區域,拿走對方
得分超級球星的舒適圈

Moreover, teams fouled less often because they were able to prevent stars
from getting to their spots and didn't have to resort to grabbing and
knocking a guy on his butt.
另一方面,球員犯規很少了,因為他們可以阻止對方的球星卡到他要的位置,而且
他們不需要訴諸擒抱或許踢他的屁屁來犯規。

All of this would have affected Jordan. His scoring prowess was built on the
foundation of his legendary ability to draw fouls, in addition to all of his
other greatness, and he was the ultimate one-on-one assassin.
這些都影響了喬丹。他的得分能力是建立在他傳奇的買犯能力。而他也是最終的一對一
殺人兵器。

It has become far more difficult to impose your personal will on an opponent
in the modern NBA, and without that dominance, Jordan's Bulls might have come
up short a time or two. Faced with increasingly complex defenses that could
focus their attention on Jordan alone, His Airness would have played a lot
more like LeBron — moving the ball, trusting his teammates, and shooting
more 3s.
在現代的NBA,施加你個人的意志到對手上變的超級困難,沒有這方面的統治力,喬丹的
公牛可能就會失手一到二次冠軍。當面對大量只針對喬丹的防守,他的籃球會變的非常
像是詹姆斯:不斷地轉移球、信任他的隊友以及射更多的三分

And when you have to rely on others to the extent LeBron has in his career,
instead of just to win championships with series-clinching shots, you're
going to have failures.
而當你必須要像詹姆斯那樣依賴你的隊友,你無法僅靠關鍵投籃拿到冠軍,相反的,
你會失敗。

原因二:NBA幫助了喬丹三次
The NBA made things easier for Jordan on three separate occasions

But we can go back further than contemporary rule changes, as there were two
seismic shifts during Jordan's time in the NBA that enabled his dominance.
除了規則改變,在喬丹時代還有兩個重大的變動助長了他的統治力

First, Jordan was the beneficiary of expansion — twice. In 1988 and 1989,
the NBA added four teams (the Heat, Hornets, Timberwolves, and Magic),
diluting the talent pool across the Association. Coupled with the decline of
the Lakers and Celtics in the early '90s, Jordan marched through a league
still on the rebound.
第一,喬丹是球隊擴增的受益者。在1988和1989年,NBA增加了四隻隊伍,把NBA的好球員
給稀釋了。再加上湖人以及賽爾迪克的衰退,喬丹得以在還在恢復中的聯盟中勝出。

Then, in 1995, the Grizzlies and Raptors came into the NBA — once again just
in time for a Bulls threepeat. Never forget, though, that the 72-10 Chicago
squad lost to the expansion Raptors in that 1995-96 season, because anything
can happen on a given night.
在喬丹復出那年,NBA又剛好增加了兩隻球隊。雖然72勝的公牛曾輸給新加入的暴龍,
畢竟任何事都是有可能的

And right at that moment, the NBA also shortened the 3-point line to try to
drive up scoring, from 22 feet in the corners and 23-9 above the break to 22
feet all the way around.
剛好這個時候NBA縮減了三分線

How convenient for Jodan, a career 32.7 percent shooter from behind the arc
who shot 50.0 percent, 42.7 percent, and 37.4 percent in three years with the
shorter line — all as he played alongside the most accurate 3-point shooter
in NBA history, Steve Kerr, who also had career years with the Bulls.
對一個生涯32.7%的射手,這一切真是太舒適了,他在縮短的三年了射出了 50%、42.7%
以及37.4%的命中率。這剛好都跟他跟史上最準的三分射手Steve Kerr重疊,Kerr的巔峰
期剛好在公牛王朝以及三分線縮短時期一樣。

Then again, it's not like Kerr's 3-point shooting helped Jordan win any
championships, right?
Kerr的三分難道沒有幫喬丹拿到任何冠軍嗎?

原因三:喬包從來沒有遇到真正的逆境
Jordan never faced a truly worthy adversary

LeBron James has faced the greatest players of his generation in the NBA
Finals (other than Kobe Bryant, sadly).
除了Kobe以及,姆斯遇到當代最強的NBA球員

He had to beat Tim Duncan, and lost to the Big Fundamental twice. He's been
defended by perennial Defensive Player of the Year candidates such as
Draymond Green, Kawhi Leonard and Andre Iguodala. He took down an Oklahoma
City Thunder team with Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden.
他必須要擊敗鄧肯,並輸給了這個基石兩次。他總是被年度最佳防守球員候選人防守,
比如說嘴綠、可愛和小AI。他打敗了擁有三名Mvp等級球員的雷霆隊

And, of course, he conquered the greatest regular-season team in NBA history,
then prepared to beat them again after they restocked by adding KD.
當然,他打敗了史上最強的例行賽球隊,並準備在他們加入了腿杜後再次擊敗他們

Who's the greatest superstar Jordan had to vanquish for a championship?
所以誰是喬丹為了拿冠軍所擊敗的最偉大球員?

Magic Johnson? That Lakers team was falling apart, and less than five months
after the 1991 Finals, Johnson announced he was HIV positive and retired from
the game.
魔術?那隻湖人正在崩解,決賽後5個月,魔術就因為愛滋病而退休

Clyde Drexler? Overlooked, yet not on the level of LeBron's opponents.
Drexler? 被低估的選手,但絕對不到姆斯對手的程度

Charles Barkley? John Stockton? Karl Malone? Count the rings — and they had
chances, too, when Jordan was retired or losing in the Eastern Conference
finals.
巴克利?大史?馬龍?他們有幾戒?而且他們明明有好幾次機會,喬丹退休期間他們有
拿到冠軍嗎?

He ducked Hakeem Olajuwon, was in the same conference as Shaquille O'Neal (by
the way, going 1-1 against Shaq's Magic in the postseason before Orlando
lowballed the Diesel and broke apart Chicago's biggest threat), and scored
against guys like Jeff Hornacek and Dan Majerle in the NBA Finals.
他躲過了歐拉朱萬而跟魔術隊同區。在決賽,則是和Hornacek以及Majerle對抗

Jordan rose to every challenge, but the challengers never rose to him.
喬丹擋在所有的挑戰前,卻沒有任何挑戰者擋在他前面。

原因四:公牛決賽的記錄並不全歸功於喬丹
The Bulls' Finals record doesn't belong to just Michael Jordan

LeBron has had more superstar help in his career, of course, but there are
two key franchise factors in Jordan's favor.
姆斯當然有更多的大腿在幫他,但有兩項特權是站在喬丹這邊

Phil Jackson is the obvious one, as The King has mostly had to deal with
average-at-best coaches during his time in the NBA (Erik Spoelstra being the
exception, although there are varied opinions on just how good of a coach
Spoelstra was during LeBron's Miami tenure).
相對於大帝生涯的教頭都很平庸,喬丹有傑克森(當然,Spoelstra算是例外)

Jordan, meanwhile, had the Zen Master to lead the Bulls, allowing His Airness
to concentrate on being a score-first, ultra-competitive maniac who fought
teammates and intimidated opponents.
喬丹另外一方面還有Master來領導公牛,所以他只需要專注在得分

He also had Scottie Pippen.
他還有皮朋

While Dwyane Wade is a better overall player than Pippen, Pippen's game
perfectly complemented Jordan's. His defense gave MJ a respite when he needed
it, and his playmaking kept the Triangle Offense flowing when Jordan
preferred to dominate the ball.
雖然Wade是比Pippen全面的球員,皮朋和喬丹完全的互補。他的防守讓喬丹有空可以鬆
一回氣,他的控場讓三角進攻運行

Really, it's unfair to harp on Jordan's perfect Finals record. The Chicago
Bulls deserve credit as a franchise for what they accomplished; giving all
the glory to the GOAT doesn't do that team justice.
當然,抱怨喬丹完美的決賽記錄是不公平的。公牛值得拿到這樣的特權。把所有的
榮耀全給喬丹則是對整隊都不公平

原因五: 在兩次三年霸間他休息了18個月
He took 18 months off between threepeats

I understand that riding on buses with the Birmingham Barons isn't exactly a
resort vacation, especially when you're processing the tragic death of your
father, but it is a lot easier on the body than having guys like Charles
Oakley sending you crashing to the hardwood a half-dozen times per game, 82
times a year.
我知道小聯盟的賽程不像是在度假,尤其是當你在為你父親的死而難過時。但對於身體
來說,這原比在場上被巴克利的大屁股撞還來的好過。

Regardless of whether you think Hakeem's Rockets would have beaten the Bulls
in the '94 or '95 Finals if Jordan didn't retire the first time (and I think
they probably would have gone 1-1), he certainly saved himself a lot of wear
and tear in those two years.
不管你認為公牛會不會被歐天王的火箭給擊敗,這兩年他完全避免了任何的折損

He got to recharge, both physically and mentally, while his biggest
adversaries grew older and wearier. If he had to face the fatigue of eight
straight Finals appearances between 1991 and 1998, however, there's no way he
ends up with a perfect championship record.
他可以在心理上和身體上充電,而他的對手們都變得更弱更老。如果他必須要連續打冠軍
賽8年,他絕對沒有辦法連拿8冠。

He might have more rings, but he's not 8-for-8 — and that's the difference
between being the modern-day Bill Russell and the undisputed Greatest of All
Time.
他或許可以拿到更多的戒指,但絕對不是8/8。這就是跟成為現代羅素或是毫無爭議的
偉大不同。

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All Comments

Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2017-05-27T22:18
當打棒球不會受傷喔..
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2017-05-31T02:51
繼續吹吧 我就看腿詹甚麼時候跟喬神一樣白
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2017-06-05T01:23
那現代摸毛哨怎麼不講
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2017-06-06T22:26
那叫姆斯離開兩年再來拿三連霸看看
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2017-06-10T22:17
嗯嗯 籃球之神是世人叫爽的
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2017-06-13T16:13
奇文共賞
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2017-06-16T11:08
樓下示範喬丹迷
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2017-06-17T00:55
這篇就是告訴大家 喬丹的對手沒你想像那麼強
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2017-06-17T06:38
真的過譽了 要是遇到現在的勇士恐怕就終生0冠了
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2017-06-17T23:08
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2017-06-19T18:00
福斯新聞 連體育都能睜眼說瞎話
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2017-06-22T16:20
北七喔 Jordan就是別人的逆境啦
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2017-06-27T08:34
壞小孩沒阻擋在喬丹前面?
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2017-06-29T23:29
當然過譽啊 又沒拿過74勝 怎麼跟我們史上最強隊勇士
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2017-06-30T22:29
真是無所不用其極的想捧某人...
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2017-07-05T13:53
最認同的是區域聯防對進攻球員影響,區域聯防下Jord
an根本不可能像以前一樣有那麼多的豪洨切入跟拉桿,
這個規則改變的影響力比handcheck大太多了
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2017-07-06T20:09
這篇蠻認同的一點就是Spo沒想像中的差..
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2017-07-08T05:06
標題是不是過譽了
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2017-07-12T14:34
說MJ在現在能50分是因為摸毛犯規的關係好嗎
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2017-07-15T09:09
集體森77
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2017-07-19T10:11
Spo其實是個還不錯的教練 今年也算逆風高飛
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2017-07-20T06:03
前陣子才有人算過MJ在當年也不算金身,數據出來還被
KD海放
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2017-07-23T16:55
以前壞孩子就是用非法的聯防守喬神 結果是什麼
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2017-07-28T14:37
怎麼不說現在可以走六步再上籃的六步詹
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2017-07-29T14:10
其他的不說 勇士真的前無古人的強隊
James avatar
By James
at 2017-08-01T22:26
總有一天這篇文會變成寫LBJ 喬丹就成了所謂的上古
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2017-08-05T08:15
這是NBA聯盟的業配文嗎? 用媒體造神 XDDD
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2017-08-06T07:04
不是原文英文就是好文啦
William avatar
By William
at 2017-08-06T16:33
還不是被喬神切爽爽 只能用喬丹法則拉他下來
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2017-08-10T08:26
有某迷混進來了
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2017-08-12T09:10
好奇怪 一天到晚說90年怎樣 那不是應該對於歐瘦
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2017-08-15T10:48
翻譯:現在籃球才是最強,神獸們來現在只會被電
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2017-08-16T02:19
巴克利 馬龍那些人來說也一樣 怎麼就沒一個人板倒
MJ XDDDDD
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2017-08-18T01:48
最好他是靠買飯
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-08-19T21:21
貴古根本不懂區域聯防吧
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2017-08-24T12:35
這篇說法是直接把MJ拿來現在放 如果MJ是在這年代成
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2017-08-28T16:35
這人是認真的? 我撐到原因3就再也無法看下去了
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2017-08-31T04:07
一看就想案2
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-09-04T07:48
87
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2017-09-08T12:10
長起來 毫無疑問還是籃球之神
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2017-09-13T11:11
當Jordan's Rule是塑膠的就是了?
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2017-09-14T03:54
又在區防了 區防都會被KOBE刷35分了 你要怎麼擋住
準度更高 得分效率更好的Jordan?
David avatar
By David
at 2017-09-15T21:11
當然我們還是要尊敬MJ啦 畢竟他是大家小時候崇拜的
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2017-09-19T20:06
外媒給推
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2017-09-21T22:15
現在籃球絕對比以前強 看以前比賽打那鳥樣就知道了
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2017-09-23T10:29
真的廢話很多,除了區域有差以外,其他都為反而反
找的理由,有夠好笑
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2017-09-24T13:47
同一個時代 同樣的攻防 別人能兩次三連霸 LBJ不能
那他就不是當代之神啊 還有這樣跨年比攻防的
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2017-09-25T12:30
你當爵士史塔克頓跟馬龍都不會打球嗎
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2017-09-30T04:00
整體實力一定比以前進步的 看Curry KD都掉到第2隊
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2017-10-01T14:10
這樣說來魔術強森在湖人的showtime也是過譽了
Una avatar
By Una
at 2017-10-06T02:45
lul
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2017-10-07T11:45
覺得只有稀釋論有道理
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2017-10-12T10:37
更別說現在三分球時代
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2017-10-15T15:19
系列捧LBJ文嗎?
William avatar
By William
at 2017-10-19T04:48
反正我是信了
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2017-10-20T16:28
忍者龜都破大三元紀錄了 不用再貴古賤今
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2017-10-24T23:18
四大中鋒: 當我們吃素的?
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2017-10-27T09:54
90年代防守比現在強,這部份柯比是認同的。
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2017-10-29T10:38
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2017-10-30T09:33
我覺得最中肯的是喬丹沒有跟歐拉對抗 而姆斯卻跟TD
打了三次 其他的有點硬扯
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2017-10-30T16:28
過你老師 時麼咖小一個敢批評神?
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2017-11-02T22:38
太帥了 誰寫的
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2017-11-05T04:57
1990年的防守並沒有那麼好(???)平行時空的NBA嗎?!
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2017-11-05T19:48
好文推一個
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2017-11-06T16:14
直接貶低崔斯樂和老巴 真的很棒
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2017-11-07T10:27
這篇大概LYS英文版 但捧姆斯就是有人推
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2017-11-09T15:28
遇到現在的勇士大概場場被破150分吧
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2017-11-09T20:44
90年代湖人就不行了 剩下都菜逼吧 拓荒者 太陽
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2017-11-12T09:52
非喬迷但整篇根本在捧詹,只能說時勢能造英雄,但也
要有英雄才能造時勢,把MJ抽掉換其他人也不見得有6
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2017-11-13T23:22
什麼爛垃圾文,說MJ躲過誰誰誰,你以為MJ在季賽沒有
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2017-11-15T07:53
喬丹屠殺雜魚奪冠真的沒什麼好說嘴的
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2017-11-17T01:36
打敗過他們嗎?
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2017-11-21T02:13
說喬丹沒跟歐拉對抗 那LBJ跟歐肥湖人對抗能打嗎
XDDDDDDD
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2017-11-24T07:32
沒有跟歐拉..但你忘了馬龍耶..難道馬龍會輸他們嗎..
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2017-11-27T13:23
這個人文章沒甚麼參考價值,寫了一堆張飛打岳飛
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2017-11-30T09:32
還有Payton Kemp這種的 放到現在不會比馬刺強的
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2017-12-01T18:11
喬丹拿不到8冠那邊的確中肯啊,95就復出輸給魔術了
,不然進冠軍賽也是會被火箭擊敗
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2017-12-03T22:45
底下就有人講了 他八成MJ的Finals一場都沒看過
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2017-12-05T07:36
是喔 就只能拿那種連打半季都不算的講
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2017-12-05T15:11
沒空 繼續賣鞋
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2017-12-09T23:06
歐拉這麼強 怎麼喬丹一回歸 就沒有冠了
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2017-12-14T12:15
歐拉拿了2冠 喬丹迷還會嗆 要不是退休...之類的 XD
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2017-12-16T19:38
https://youtu.be/L_n86uuVJpY 是不到爛
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2017-12-19T05:48
當然真的有人認為歐拉是撿到2冠
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2017-12-20T07:37
問題是歐拉帶雜魚兩冠啊 值得提 LBJ組大腿三王2冠
才是笑話一場吧
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2017-12-23T02:37
某迷都他媽的只會講一堆屁話 還能寫專欄 zzzzzzzz
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2017-12-23T16:00
MJ過譽 哈哈哈
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2017-12-26T10:04
還被 1:4 擊落
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2017-12-31T02:25
那個時代不太愛防三分就是了
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2018-01-02T16:28
被和平先生打斷的肋骨不算折損
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2018-01-07T02:01
要不是硬限制 真想罵個*Xㄦ
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2018-01-07T14:58
真的是垃圾文,怎麽不講現在的球隊愛輪休?
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2018-01-10T11:51
如果整篇把喬丹跟喇叭的名字互換..講的話又會不同了
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2018-01-12T06:59
雷槍和厄文的三分球難道沒有幫助LBJ拿兩座冠軍嗎?
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2018-01-12T20:10
我詹早就超越喬丹了 裝睡的人叫不醒
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2018-01-16T14:07
一個當代(3/3+3/3) 一個組大腿(2/4 1/2) 怎麼看
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2018-01-16T16:39
LBJ都只有MJ的一半啊XDDD
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2018-01-18T05:36
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2018-01-18T19:17
未看先猜FOX,果然就是前幾天那篇英文廢文作者...,,
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2018-01-21T23:18
有夠低能的文章
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2018-01-23T03:57
這邏輯簡直笑死
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2018-01-24T21:52
鬼扯 一堆雙重標準
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2018-01-28T05:38
喔 這種廢文也可以當專欄喔
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2018-01-30T06:17
這真的是傻眼
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2018-02-02T11:57
87
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2018-02-03T16:08
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2018-02-07T20:15
就是有人拼命想說LBJ不下MJ呀,這水準跟去年勇迷難
裡不同,就說都一樣
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2018-02-08T16:02
這篇跟版上常被噓爆的文章比不知道誰比較遜
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2018-02-09T06:33
優文給推
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2018-02-10T09:01
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2018-02-12T21:31
喬丹沒抱腿,結束
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2018-02-14T10:19
邏輯……
William avatar
By William
at 2018-02-15T01:01
優文
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2018-02-18T18:19
以前壞小孩時代你想上籃直接把你從空中拉下來
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2018-02-19T09:18
這水準
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2018-02-22T00:19
90防守那邊就可以end了
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2018-02-25T21:51
MJ肯定是史上最偉大球員這沒辦法質疑
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2018-02-28T09:22
不管一個時代攻防強弱 全體都一樣 有人能六冠
一堆名人堂一冠都無 你能質疑什麼
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2018-03-03T16:20
但是MJ對手並沒有LBJ來得強
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2018-03-08T00:01
爛文2000年後40歲的喬丹拿40分就打臉整篇文了根本呵
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2018-03-10T12:45
造反了造反了...竟然敢寫這種挑戰MJ地位的文章
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2018-03-13T15:44
說 90防守弱 怎麼就喬丹一個人猛拿得分王XD
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2018-03-18T13:30
什麼都集中在一個人身上 你說是該時代的什麼問題 ㄟ
是時代問題還是該人的問題XD
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2018-03-22T04:28
覺得你邏輯不太好
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2018-03-22T14:48
看到區防就笑了 區防這麼神 有守死Kobe 西河 可愛
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2018-03-25T10:48
沒碰到強敵? 名人堂都死人?
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2018-03-27T12:41
看到標題 直接噓
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2018-04-01T12:06
XDD 馬龍 巴克利 歐瘦 : 就是要說我們都廢物就是
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2018-04-06T00:20
拿名人堂說嘴也太好笑了吧..現代球員只是還沒退休
舉個例子Harden 西河 KD 退休也是爽進
你十年後再看 現在也是名人堂亂戰
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2018-04-09T01:45
所以呢 LBJ做了適應當代的訓練 有雙三連霸?
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2018-04-10T09:51
鄉民總是無法接受不同意見
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2018-04-15T02:59
72勝被認為不可能破也被破了
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2018-04-19T05:42
事情真的不是一定說得準的
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2018-04-23T01:06
完全沒說服力
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2018-04-25T22:17
少拿什麼貴古講 你現在支持LBJ 等10年後 別人
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2018-04-30T07:40
拿一個 只是免強接近LBJ成績的說超越他 你服氣嗎
你活在當代支持的人 永遠都不會變古人就是了
David avatar
By David
at 2018-05-01T16:00
牽拖王
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2018-05-02T06:32
Jordan的對手的確普遍都偏弱 馬龍根本比不上TD
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2018-05-06T22:13
老史也是完全比不上Curry 這些都是事實
籃球水平普遍低落的時候靠天分屠殺聯盟而已
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2018-05-10T13:05
別人20年後拿同樣論點酸LBJ 你服氣? XD
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2018-05-12T08:02
我幹嘛理20年後的事 你現在就在酸了
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2018-05-12T19:40
拿那種不可能打得來放話 MJ都笑了
挑我不能打得時候穿越時空啊XD
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2018-05-17T06:33
也太卑劣了吧
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2018-05-21T12:42
本版不歡迎自介
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2018-05-23T23:56
要談超越 不用連霸 先拿6冠再說
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2018-05-26T21:34
腿迷就很可憐啊 當代當不了神 用腦補得穿越時空打怪
當代成就先能比擬在越級很難嗎XD
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2018-05-28T15:31
現在就像熱火2連霸時期 硬要捧 結果怎麼樣我就不說
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2018-05-31T14:01
縮短三分線 不講沒幾個人知道吧 這都古早的事了
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2018-06-05T13:37
直接用腦補的越級 是有多悲哀啊
LBJ當代雙三連霸 越級來考量時代也還差不多XD
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2018-06-07T23:14
最喜歡腦補的就是你啊...
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2018-06-10T15:11
其實某些部分還算合理
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2018-06-13T18:58
最愛腦補的那個 說別人腦補 哈哈 又不是先說先贏
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2018-06-18T18:31
被一個從 1999就開始打球的TD隊打成 1:4
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2018-06-22T08:14
多元社會,連zaza 都有粉絲了,我討厭的是妄想帶風
向的渣
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2018-06-24T13:07
既然會被寫成專欄質疑 就是因為有一定想像空間
不用氣到跳腳吧
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2018-06-28T15:50
KB在區域聯防時代都能場均35分 喬老大為什麼不能
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2018-06-29T12:50
然後說 90年怎樣 是想笑死誰啊 難不成你想說
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2018-07-02T14:04
原因三到底在工三小
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2018-07-04T12:25
為什麼每篇有關lbj的都要氣得跳腳啊...
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2018-07-05T20:15
2014的 TD 一定比 10幾年前強XD
我真的快笑爆
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2018-07-06T12:48
不認同就不認同 氣到每篇都要貶低...這
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2018-07-09T06:21
LBJ迷又沒說已經超越MJ了 這篇只是說喬丹過譽
David avatar
By David
at 2018-07-10T21:48
譁眾取寵的文章...
John avatar
By John
at 2018-07-14T21:40
最愛腦補的不是昨天在那邊6冠4亞比6冠的?
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-07-18T17:53
LBJ連一個 年均超過30歲的待退隊都打成1:4
還想去90打 MJ????????有夢最美
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2018-07-19T22:49
反串吧 原因三完全是反面論述紅色光頭的主宰力
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2018-07-22T06:07
其實講得不錯 立論分析都算清晰 只是酸酸會無法接受
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2018-07-24T19:24
邏輯很差的文。說的好像規則改變只影響其它隊一樣。
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2018-07-25T16:09
一堆人亂噓也只是挑幾句自己看不順眼的..
事實上這篇也只有說6/6是過譽的...
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2018-07-27T19:47
如果這篇少提LBJ 可能噓的會少一點
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2018-07-30T03:55
把區域聯防吹得這麼神 喬登38歲拿51分 39歲拿45分
40歲拿43分兼平均20分怎麼算?
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2018-08-02T20:52
現代球隊都蠻可悲的 拿不到72勝說比不上
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2018-08-06T01:03
看超音速打紅頭是怎麼守的,講三小....
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2018-08-06T15:34
拿超過72勝就是現代沒競爭力
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-08-08T20:15
https://youtu.be/7bHh56BgwW4
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-08-12T19:50
我同意比奪冠率是很奇怪,但絕對不是因為這篇文說
的原因
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2018-08-15T15:10
90年代不准區防是真的比較好進攻
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2018-08-17T10:13
現代防守強很好啊 那LBJ的熱火應該攻防都強 怎麼打
不贏馬刺 還被輾 難不成在當代還要再細分 馬刺防守
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2018-08-18T11:02
又是超越更一個時代的強 在掰啊
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2018-08-18T22:26
下一篇MJ守得住街亭嗎?
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2018-08-23T02:20
https://youtu.be/_CrT6pCvpNc 這隻超音速?
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2018-08-25T18:02
看完前兩段就看不下去了 完全狗屁不通的論述
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2018-08-29T06:53
他連凌晨5點都還在酸詹 不用睡覺的
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2018-09-01T01:04
我看防守真的沒多鬼神啊= =
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2018-09-01T14:20
通篇屁話...全部反過來講都沒問題...
John avatar
By John
at 2018-09-02T09:05
這樣也有分析清晰 僅單面論述當基準點就做出結論
論文這樣搞應該會被釘在牆吧
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2018-09-06T19:13
看過最垃圾的文章就這一篇
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2018-09-09T07:01
酸到沒邏輯了吧 打輸馬刺不就說明馬刺強 LBJ還打3次
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2018-09-12T09:35
MJ季賽可沒有養生打法
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2018-09-15T23:22
90不管防守多鬆多強 就只有一個人6冠 6FMVP
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2018-09-20T19:52
不用講得好像其他攻擊手都是膿包一樣
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2018-09-25T04:00
MJ是有打到馬刺這種嗎 還不是打一些無冠球隊 = =
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2018-09-27T11:01
看到第二段就看不下去了
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2018-10-01T13:55
喬丹該下神壇了
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2018-10-04T14:15
MJ的對手中有冠就魔術強森 而且那時湖人已晚期
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2018-10-07T16:55
這種話你好意思喔 結果熱火三王第一年就被小牛2:4
不然小牛是有幾冠XD
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2018-10-11T14:40
歡迎猩世代的神~LBJ!!
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2018-10-15T02:18
你拿LBJ失敗的經驗去酸他 正好說明他的對手比MJ強
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2018-10-18T14:39
小牛只有1次 MJ呢 拓荒者太陽超音速 我還不算爵士
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2018-10-21T01:30
說到爵士 我倒是覺得爵士比較算強敵
整體防守比超音速好多了...
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2018-10-21T22:54
更不用說 LBJ的熱火 隊友都自己選來的 親自選的
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2018-10-23T00:18
還高調 not 5 not 7
第一年就被無冠小牛打貓XD
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2018-10-27T15:54
扯對手幾冠哩
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2018-10-30T01:41
你的點都用雙重標準的...別提了吧
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2018-10-30T10:42
好堅持要護航......
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2018-11-01T09:42
什麼爛邏輯 LBJ輸 所以他對手比較強 怎麼不是LBJ不
夠強
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2018-11-03T16:16
喬丹對手沒冠是他太強,沒人能從他手上拿冠…迷迷
變成質疑喬丹冠軍不純,都打沒冠的
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2018-11-07T18:28
當然我也不會不給你說小牛 要酸LBJ這點 沒辦法護航
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2018-11-12T03:02
XDDD 刻意組團都被粉碎 拜託不要再提了
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2018-11-13T01:39
LBJ贏也會被酸對手弱吧..沒意義
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2018-11-14T05:56
原文明明是歐克利 翻成巴克利...還加料大屁股勒...
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2018-11-14T21:25
無冠所以對手弱 怎麼不說MJ強讓他們無冠 雙重標準
喔?
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2018-11-19T17:12
很好啊 所以講對手不是很好笑 LBJ的對手一定比MJ
強的根據在哪 小牛無冠一樣打貓組團的熱火
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2018-11-21T17:44
用肯定的不是一直是酸酸嗎
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2018-11-25T17:46
有差嗎XD
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2018-11-28T19:36
巴克利很強名人堂球星 dirk就不強不是名人堂球星
==反正你們就是這樣認為吧
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2018-12-02T12:11
又變回奪冠率的問題了 MJ沒打進冠軍賽 你會說MJ弱?
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2018-12-04T09:42
MJ沒組團啊XDDDDDDDDDD
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2018-12-08T02:17
然後贏了12 13 15也是冠軍不純 因為對手不強
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2018-12-11T12:27
組團超過 n冠 是LBJ自己發表的ㄟ
好像第一年就垮了 垮在無冠的
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2018-12-13T14:14
只會抓著莫名其妙的點打
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2018-12-18T10:10
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2018-12-20T21:39
美國lys
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2018-12-22T23:20
廢到笑的反串嗎哈哈哈
George avatar
By George
at 2018-12-26T07:30
你先說說MJ贏=對手無冠不夠強的邏輯在哪?
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2018-12-29T19:26
不好意思 老實說 檢討MJ對手是從LBJ文開始
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2019-01-01T12:26
還是又要像6冠4亞一樣用腦補的?
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-01-01T22:17
說退休打棒球可以充電兼而讓對手變老弱這招超棒啊,
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2019-01-03T11:10
想捧LBJ說MJ對手不強 我壓根從沒想過LBJ要淪落到
要這樣去旁門左道 他自己應該也會想笑吧
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2019-01-03T19:27
很難懂嗎 馬刺3次>拓荒者太陽超音速
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2019-01-08T13:58
現代NBA哪個過得了當年活塞陣?來看看收視率好了
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2019-01-09T01:07
可憐到 要跨時代檢討神的對手
David avatar
By David
at 2019-01-11T06:02
除非你覺得馬刺比較弱 那就沒什麼好講了
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2019-01-12T19:12
任何人等四十年都可以統治nba.
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2019-01-14T21:15
MJ擋住其他人然後質疑沒人擋他所以他比較弱?神邏輯
很少噓的這篇受不了 拿TD比大夢 整篇錯誤譬喻類比
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2019-01-17T11:22
還沒說今年算進去要打勇士3次 強度一比就很明顯
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2019-01-19T02:54
哈哈
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2019-01-21T05:30
這樣比喔?那MJ的公牛6 LBJ熱火2騎士1 現在MJ強
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2019-01-21T21:39
這篇沒認為LBJ比MJ強吧...
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2019-01-25T01:49
被說超黑的雷霆3哨 其實當年在西區呼聲是很高的
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2019-01-28T19:57
現在還是沒人擋得住當年的公牛好嗎~~笑死人了
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2019-01-28T21:32
沒覺得馬刺弱 時空背景差那麼多你要比什麼對手?
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2019-01-30T05:55
開打前也沒人覺得熱火就一定會贏雷霆
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2019-01-31T21:37
組團的三冠沒過譽 沒組團的六冠拿一些歪理說過譽
難不成 幾年後要同一篇文說LBJ多過譽 第一段就是
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2019-02-03T12:49
引戰
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-02-06T21:20
休息18個月 是利空還是利多? 怎麼說都行?
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2019-02-07T04:50
抱腿XDDDDDD
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2019-02-07T22:24
好啦詹皇最棒了 下去領500
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2019-02-10T08:49
只是後來雷霆三少各分東西了 不然雷霆也算強隊
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2019-02-12T08:49
沒錯啊 你沒看三角戰術都不行了...(x
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2019-02-14T11:12
推oklagg 同感
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2019-02-17T02:34
第一個1990防守沒現在好 馬上...
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2019-02-18T18:18
LBJ輸的2次 都是被三分射死 三分時代強過三角戰術
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2019-02-21T04:34
神廢文+神腦X迷,絕配
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2019-02-23T02:28
腿詹聯盟第一人也是過譽了
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2019-02-27T10:16
貴古迷可以去好好想想 到底誰的對手強
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-03-03T14:36
原因一: 1990年的防守並沒有那麼好 哈哈哈哈
John avatar
By John
at 2019-03-07T15:36
看到馬龍和老巴那邊我這現代球迷看不下去啊,邏輯
到底在哪
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2019-03-07T23:01
所以LBJ去年贏 又是他的實力超過三分戰術 是這樣喔
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-03-11T04:44
LBJ好棒好棒 對手好強好強 MJ6冠6FMVP根本是路邊撿
的 超爽der路邊撿到冠軍戒科科
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2019-03-11T22:48
看一下以前怎麼防守好嗎,現在各種演戲都可以罰球
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2019-03-16T11:03
腿迷的邏輯真是多采多姿
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2019-03-18T22:19
哈哈~西方記者發費文的功力只比糗爺有過之而無不及X
DDDD
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2019-03-21T08:18
看到原因ㄧ就笑了,90年防守根本就是肉搏戰,哪裡
輕鬆
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2019-03-26T00:44
腿迷就是 營的都是LBJ實力 輸的都是當代防守太強
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2019-03-30T17:17
而且老喬沒逆境 當活塞死人哦= =
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2019-04-02T07:38
三分戰術問題 真有你的啊
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2019-04-07T05:40
稍微放個連假 某腿迷就出來秀下限科科
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2019-04-09T19:13
聯盟也看不見寶傑的翻球和走步假摔
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2019-04-12T19:22
幫補 MJ無法超越的話當現在的後勤都死光光了喔
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2019-04-13T18:32
看看台灣那些掌握資源的老人一直貴古 看了就討厭
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2019-04-15T13:41
這篇也太扯
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2019-04-16T03:28
MJ無法超越的是推廣NBA 就向老人們把台灣推向開發
開發中國家一樣
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2019-04-19T08:12
這種就是所謂很像在講道理的屁話
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2019-04-23T17:26
我曾經也認為姆斯要超越喬丹了 直到他輸了一次又一
次的決賽 然後一次又一次的中二 加上幾次明顯的硬
刷數據 我就明白就算紀錄接近 姆斯也還是無法達到
喬丹的高度
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2019-04-23T21:13
中肯
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2019-04-28T16:15
腿迷好可怕
George avatar
By George
at 2019-05-03T14:12
這比我小三寫的作文還差
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2019-05-05T06:09
認真看完了 寫得不錯啊 為什麼前面一堆人氣得
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-05-08T07:47
這作者絕對是詹黑 反串得太明顯
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2019-05-11T04:32
懶叫都軟了
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2019-05-11T21:19
其實這篇也認為MJ>LBJ...不過...
很多人認為不可質疑...
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2019-05-13T08:17
如果歷史不可質疑 羅素爺應該才是唯一真神
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2019-05-14T14:18
這篇根本不用認真回吧......
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2019-05-16T13:46
MJ的偉大在於在資訊爆炸的年代主宰NBA
看你每篇有關LBJ的都氣成這樣就知道了啊
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2019-05-18T14:17
少來 你腿迷會爽讓人質疑嗎 來這套
當未來用抱腿質疑LBJ過譽 你爽嗎?
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2019-05-22T04:18
原PO是說 除了詹皇 90年代的各位都是..??
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2019-05-22T14:25
沒有逆境是他夠屌 這三小文章
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2019-05-26T03:18
是嘛 我也每篇都看到你啊 很奇怪嗎XDDD
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2019-05-28T05:31
當然沒啥冠軍對手,因為想拿冠軍的幾乎都被MJ打敗了
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2019-05-31T01:23
每篇都看到我LUL 你每篇都回而且推文數是我的好幾倍
我都懷疑你才是真詹迷了
我也沒氣到凌晨起來也要酸球員
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2019-05-31T22:51
所以呢 不能講?
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2019-06-03T09:25
轉隊抱大腿這點完勝MJ倒是真的
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2019-06-06T20:58
我看妳們連我什麼時候上限都要追究才好笑吧
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2019-06-10T00:28
如果你以為講不過就要從我怎樣怎樣開刀 你就省省吧
這不是老招嗎 幾百年前就在用 我會受影響才怪XDD
James avatar
By James
at 2019-06-12T11:20
以前的才叫防守吧,現在根本呵呵
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2019-06-13T14:04
愛怎麼講就怎麼講
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2019-06-16T11:07
姆斯現在來看真的第一
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2019-06-17T21:16
今年被勇士橫掃不知道有沒有歷史第十
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2019-06-19T11:16
現在防守軟的跟什麼一樣……
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2019-06-20T10:51
賤古貴今 每個時代的不一樣 每個年代都有自己的球
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2019-06-20T16:19
廢文 講的MJ好像都遇到廢物一樣
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2019-06-22T19:15
詹迷又一 篇為捧而捧廢文 結案
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2019-06-23T12:46
第一點就可以噓了
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2019-06-27T02:19
多寫幾個來笑笑!!THANKS!!
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2019-06-28T23:47
一堆好笑的邏輯
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2019-06-29T11:44
廢文
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2019-07-03T18:36
廢文,貶馬龍老巴捧鄧肯,可笑
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2019-07-08T04:01
身爲姆斯迷,這篇也是看到一半就看不下去了!
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2019-07-08T15:11
我看的90年代跟這位作者好像不一樣的吼
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2019-07-11T10:16
喬丹弱一點 馬龍成就就不輸歐拉了啦
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2019-07-14T02:56
其實馬龍老巴<<<<<<<<<<<< 鄧肯
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2019-07-16T04:37
根本某迷自嗨,姆斯抱腿就是一輩子老二了
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2019-07-20T11:17
為什麼喬丹沒遇到阻力?哈哈哈~因為喬丹已經是最強
的了,當然沒敵手阿,LBJ就是因為不夠強,才會被看
扁~~
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2019-07-24T19:24
分析的很中肯阿
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2019-07-25T05:33
他的對手沒冠就是因為他啊,拿沒冠來講對手弱是不是
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2019-07-29T10:34
哪裡搞錯了
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2019-08-02T03:04
這作者是哪個腦弱?
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2019-08-05T22:41
邏輯不通
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2019-08-10T03:29
喬丹打得贏勇士嗎?
James avatar
By James
at 2019-08-12T20:30
講到MJ對手就各種老.弱.沒戒指XD
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2019-08-15T12:53
結論大概就是.....Jordan你就是廢渣,只能打爆90年
代的廢廢渣,所以才僥倖拿到6冠,像james這麼出色的
男人,回到喬丹年代,不要說輕鬆得總冠軍,可能對手
連總亞軍都不好意思拿XDD
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2019-08-19T09:36
老實說這篇根本不算貶喬丹 說在多 喬丹在當時是無敵
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2019-08-21T11:21
這篇貶得就是 連一冠都沒有的那些重量級名人堂球員
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2019-08-21T16:20
簡單的邏輯 現在區域聯防強 矮湯能場均快30分
難不成貴今的想說 矮湯去90年能場均50分? 哈哈
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2019-08-22T09:15
那乾脆歷史前10都給現今場均20以上的拿好嗎
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2019-08-23T13:20
MJ過譽,*73w體系隊也過譽,結案!
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2019-08-25T16:37
胡扯,都在打棒球沒練籃球不會退步?亂講一通
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2019-08-28T03:43
誰寫的鳥文?自己文章邏輯中間都過不去了
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2019-09-01T11:20
的確
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2019-09-05T01:52
姆斯能退休回來就拿三連冠?
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2019-09-06T22:52
姆斯回到90年代早就哭著找裁判了
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2019-09-07T04:50
其實是詹酸寫的吧XD
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2019-09-11T03:01
老人恥力不足,無法年紀輕輕抱腿
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2019-09-13T23:02
喬丹打得當然是無冠球隊阿,冠軍都給他拿了= =
而且不要忘了東區擊敗過活塞,當他們沒冠軍!?
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2019-09-16T00:38
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2019-09-19T19:31
誰跟你是我們 別高攀好嗎
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2019-09-23T23:28
XDDDDD 神邏輯
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2019-09-25T14:57
我唯一認同的只有連續打8年總冠不可能全贏
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2019-09-29T06:38
這太能扯了
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2019-10-02T06:33
看不下去END
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2019-10-05T10:29
鬼話 ..........
William avatar
By William
at 2019-10-06T05:52
...
William avatar
By William
at 2019-10-09T17:56
低能
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2019-10-10T15:59
講什麼屁話呀這篇
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2019-10-13T16:59
通篇鬼扯 浪費我的生命
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2019-10-18T15:17
只講過去的喬神和俠客來打現在的規則? 那現在的勇士
擺到以前打打公牛活塞試試看?
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2019-10-20T16:58
xd
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2019-10-24T18:03
現在規則跟之前沒什麼好比各有優缺 老喬這種協調性
不管放到哪個年代都是最完美的得分後衛身體素質
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-10-29T02:02
講的MJ當年沒球星一樣
然後又說聯盟幫助他
他退休又復出是馬上又拿冠軍
這要怎麼解釋?
真是篇廢文
只能給9487分(滿分是1,000,000,000,000,000 000)
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2019-10-31T07:38
剛看完過去影片,反而覺得現代籃球有夠軟
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2019-11-05T01:27
.........
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2019-11-07T00:30
.......................人家出去打兩年棒球zzz
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2019-11-11T14:14
還沒虛爆啊
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2019-11-14T02:51
好啦 喬丹過譽 其他球員也不算個咖 只要生涯有碰過
喬丹的全部都滾出他媽的名人堂 白癡專欄
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2019-11-18T19:19
90年代防守是直接打人的,你跟我說不會防?
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2019-11-19T18:01
現代的防守要跟90年比?再多看點影片吧這記者素質…
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2019-11-23T03:29
通篇鬼扯 所短三分線只有一季 那時喬丹去打棒球
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2019-11-26T23:17
MJ生涯所面對的防守 絕對是史上最多包夾最硬最多小
動作最嚴密的防守
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2019-12-01T08:53
MJ所遇到的對手都不是冠軍級別的對手 這不廢話嗎 因
為MJ就最強冠軍都被他拿走了啊
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2019-12-03T08:57
哈哈,這是糗爺發的英文新聞嗎?好像啊
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2019-12-04T19:13
垃圾文
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2019-12-08T10:15
詹迷可以不要找這種替The不讓輸給勇士的藉口的文章
來聲東擊西好嗎,太好笑了
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2019-12-13T07:33
其實內容立論是ok的 可以討論就是
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2019-12-13T15:43
我2沒壞
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2019-12-15T03:07
喬丹碰到的防守不是最硬
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2019-12-19T14:00
直接打人不等於防守出色
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2019-12-22T19:29
好喔
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2019-12-26T20:34
通篇鬼扯
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2019-12-27T15:32
內文提到現在犯規變少了 我笑了
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2019-12-31T14:30
科比90年代只打四年 最強防守時期他沒有碰到
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2020-01-04T16:43
看看弱化版MJ的可愛今年拿多少分,再看看MJ.....
爭著眼說瞎話不意外 XDDD
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2020-01-05T09:26
他認為出拐比較多 糾纏比較多 但是這些動作不等於
防守比教強
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2020-01-09T08:19
貼這篇的人是沒受過教育嗎,書上讀到的籃球員是誰啊
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2020-01-11T06:19
MJ當然沒有遇到夠強的對手....他自己就是最強的那個
真的是邏輯0分 (攤手
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-01-14T14:01
喬丹拿多少分不等於他會拿冠軍
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2020-01-18T13:56
說90年代防守比現在好的才去看看影片吧
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2020-01-22T19:40
MJ的主宰力無疑遠超過可愛,這應該不用懷疑了
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2020-01-23T01:13
外圍防守不如現在
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By Kelly
at 2020-01-24T08:08
活賽用非法的防守擋下喬丹3次啊 怎麼失敗了
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By Ursula
at 2020-01-24T14:08
後來活賽自己變弱 進攻變差湯瑪斯退化
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By Sandy
at 2020-01-27T00:54
姆咪好可怕
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By Caroline
at 2020-01-28T15:38
90年代一堆人刷分不只喬丹
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By Elizabeth
at 2020-02-01T09:20
攻殺小
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By Freda
at 2020-02-06T04:21
喬丹個人進攻能力最強大的88~90 可是被活塞擋下了
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By William
at 2020-02-11T03:12
hand-checking的防守功效過分誇大
現在也有球員會用hand-check 不是沒人使用
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By Queena
at 2020-02-11T21:20
但是使用了對於阻止進攻球員沒有多少效果
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By Una
at 2020-02-12T02:30
把雷納德放到90年代 他會勝過喬丹面對的任何一個
非禁區對手 例如崔斯勒和裴頓
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By Eartha
at 2020-02-14T05:39
馬龍巴克力的確不如鄧肯啊
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By Elvira
at 2020-02-17T15:09
90年防守肉搏戰根本只是印象派沒有認真觀察
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By Ina
at 2020-02-22T14:23
沒錯
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By Anthony
at 2020-02-25T14:52
除了尼克 沒球隊打什麼肉搏式防守
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By Rachel
at 2020-02-26T14:41
熱火開始肉搏是90年最末了
很多人只看高光說90年代防守兇狠肉搏...
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By Liam
at 2020-03-01T13:17
多看尼克以外的球隊吧
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2020-03-05T14:43
另外 對於喬丹設計的防守不等於球隊普遍情況的防守
或整個年代的平均防守
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2020-03-08T17:02
現在勇士去打以前的活塞公牛又不一定會輸
James avatar
By James
at 2020-03-10T06:55
北七 怎麼不說獨孤求敗因為沒有對手 所以不是最強
智障邏輯
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By Emily
at 2020-03-14T05:29
這是腿迷寫的?
Una avatar
By Una
at 2020-03-19T05:24
整篇廢文
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By Dora
at 2020-03-20T17:08
東區王在說自己的對手很強XDDDDD
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By Hedwig
at 2020-03-22T02:50
如果這樣比 那KB可以吃大便了
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By Lucy
at 2020-03-24T10:33
那麽多貴古迷喔
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By Valerie
at 2020-03-29T00:43
記者腦殘不分國界
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By Gilbert
at 2020-03-29T11:37
聯盟幫了LBJ幾次?
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By Hedwig
at 2020-04-03T08:08
欠噓
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By Christine
at 2020-04-06T20:52
原因一根本鬼扯
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By Zora
at 2020-04-10T09:25
簡單說就是MJ對手太弱?那他們怎麼不強一點?
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By Olivia
at 2020-04-12T21:52
老喬:對手不夠強怪我囉~
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By Wallis
at 2020-04-17T01:05
賤今根本不懂化緣買飯吧
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By Bethany
at 2020-04-19T23:54
Lbj第一冠是加入對手才有的啊
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By Todd Johnson
at 2020-04-23T22:22
wtf
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By Harry
at 2020-04-27T12:17
三分線縮短也拿出來說 是只縮公牛這半邊逆
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By Sandy
at 2020-04-30T10:32
太中肯。但沒看過他打球的造神粉會噓。
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By Wallis
at 2020-05-01T16:32
腿迷水準
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By Hedda
at 2020-05-03T15:24
廢文不分國界
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By Rosalind
at 2020-05-04T20:43
作者收LBJ多少錢??
Una avatar
By Una
at 2020-05-06T05:02
大概只有怪腔怪調才可以引起側目吧
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By Carol
at 2020-05-09T10:13
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By George
at 2020-05-09T19:34
LBJ的對手強在哪裡?只能打敗老殘的Duncan吧
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By Steve
at 2020-05-11T13:52
Duncan健康的時候,LBJ只能被橫掃哭哭說未來是我的
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By Candice
at 2020-05-16T07:04
還有他打敗雷霆的時候,那三個算MVP等級?可以這樣算?
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By Tracy
at 2020-05-19T04:59
未來會得MVP的自動歸類為MVP等級對手,喬丹也可以啊
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By Charlie
at 2020-05-23T10:57
喬丹躲開了歐拉朱旺,但是和歐尼爾同區,不覺得有較好
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By Agatha
at 2020-05-25T23:43
怎不說是歐拉朱旺躲開了喬丹?自己殺不出西區怪誰?
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By Jacob
at 2020-05-30T13:12
還有禪師的能力如果利害,現在的尼克隊會慘成這樣?
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By Lily
at 2020-06-01T01:36
禪師靠喬丹才變名教練,就像MB靠LBJ拿最佳教練一樣
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By Thomas
at 2020-06-02T21:04
壞小孩 歐肥一分錢表示
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By Olga
at 2020-06-07T17:36
冠軍都被喬丹拿走了,所以喬丹的對手要怎麼有冠軍?
John avatar
By John
at 2020-06-11T00:20
LBJ的對手有冠軍就比較強?只代表他統治力差吧!
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2020-06-13T06:13
廢文
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By Olive
at 2020-06-14T13:50
只要不說喬丹是神就會被批鬥,塊陶啊
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By Susan
at 2020-06-18T15:38
所以沒有人打的過喬神也是他的錯www
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By Andrew
at 2020-06-21T01:19
姆斯近年對手弱 助手強 結案
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By Quanna
at 2020-06-25T14:59
廢文, 當東區防守是軟柿子?!!
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By Daniel
at 2020-06-27T03:28
只剩2沒壞
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By Jack
at 2020-06-30T23:00
這誰寫的廢文 害我前面還認真看了一下
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By Kama
at 2020-07-05T00:09
這篇是在教我們 如何從雞蛋裡挑骨頭嗎XD
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By Sarah
at 2020-07-09T02:08
所以當時每隊最強防守球員都不去守喬丹!完全不中立
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By Damian
at 2020-07-10T15:47
是教你黑的寫成白的 把所有人的阻礙寫成其實是沒有
足夠強的對手 有的話那就會有兩個神了…
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By Annie
at 2020-07-11T02:40
LBJ手上的戒指,哪一個不是聚集每隊王牌才拿到的
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2020-07-13T11:21
會被噓也只是剛好
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By Elma
at 2020-07-15T08:09
看到買飯就end了,鬍子買成這樣好意思說MJ
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2020-07-16T02:26
要幫LBJ造神鋪路前 先把擋在前面的神給毀了 較好超
越嘛
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By Jack
at 2020-07-20T04:08
神也過譽
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By Vanessa
at 2020-07-22T07:29
可憐 以為翻英文的廢文 就會變成討論激烈的好文XDDD
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By Cara
at 2020-07-26T14:49
以前爛隊多?籃網這種業餘選手球隊都能陪騎士勇士
打了
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2020-07-29T02:11
通篇公牛的屎
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By Michael
at 2020-08-02T06:23
40歲老MJ面對區防砍了50分 後仰就破防啊
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-08-05T18:10
這種丟臉的文章居然寫得出來
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By Catherine
at 2020-08-09T06:14
有幾點同意 有幾點過於牽強
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By Frederica
at 2020-08-13T08:19
屎文
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By Franklin
at 2020-08-16T00:36
喬丹和歐尼爾同區對到的時間很短,稱不上長期對手
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By Heather
at 2020-08-18T07:17
三分線是只有公牛主場的變短喔 講這啥幹話啊
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2020-08-19T09:14
九零的防守很硬,但防守硬跟防守好是兩件事情。
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By Joseph
at 2020-08-19T13:14
這作者的原因都太廢了 三分線縮短難道只幫了公牛?
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2020-08-23T21:04
MJ在拿到冠軍前沒有遭遇逆境?公牛有比騎士更報團?
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By Caitlin
at 2020-08-28T16:24
第一次退休的兩年叫休息?真的整篇幾乎都鬼話 XD
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By Robert
at 2020-08-29T07:28
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