台北聽奧9月登場 除開幕外賽事全免費 - 奧運,世大運,亞運討論

By Gary
at 2009-07-28T01:25
at 2009-07-28T01:25
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推 amilu:開+閉我查到的是11億 (有錯請版友指正) 140.129.77.208 07/28 00:43
聽奧軟體經費部分 中央補助 6.5億(包含賽事籌辦 5.4億+選手組團培訓1.1億)
加上台北市自籌後共約9.7億
硬體經費部分 中央補助29.7億
(現政府編列28.8億,前政府編列 7.4億)
不知道開幕+閉幕花到11億是賴聲川自己出錢嗎?
順便看一下世運 中央補助17.6億(包含賽事籌辦12.9億+選手組團培訓4.1億)
加上高雄市自籌後共約24億
硬體經費部分 中央補助83.9億
(現政府編列 4.1億,前政府編列95.9億)
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※ 編輯: lionbank 來自: 114.45.139.106 (07/28 01:28)
→ tchuangtom:有人知道"轉播製播預算"各是多少嗎? 124.9.198.13 07/28 01:28
推 rwhung:28.8+7.4怎麼會是29.7億 122.123.82.18 07/28 01:29
→ lionbank:9.7+29.7 = 28.8+7.4 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:30
推 suzuki:所以開閉幕到底打算花多少?112.104.102.201 07/28 01:31
→ lionbank:不到兩億,跟世運差不多,世運1.6億 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:33
推 rwhung:郝龍斌表示,聽奧的硬體經費原為五十二億ꐠ 122.123.82.18 07/28 01:36
→ rwhung:體經費因物價及部分修正,經費近七十億 122.123.82.18 07/28 01:36
→ vre:世運1.4億 114.43.32.182 07/28 01:37
→ lionbank:記者亂報 是聽奧的軟體總經費 不是開閉幕 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:41
→ lionbank:硬體部分北市高市自籌出多少查不到 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:42
→ lionbank:我列出的部分是確定核出去的經費數字 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:43
→ suzuki:高市自籌只有部份高雄小巨蛋(BOT?)112.104.102.201 07/28 01:44
→ lionbank:包含了統籌款和動用預備金的部分都在裡面 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:45
→ suzuki:其實硬體沒什麼好比的,大都是中央出的112.104.102.201 07/28 01:45
→ lionbank:是的,所以我也就沒有去細查硬體的自籌款 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:46
→ suzuki:地方政府除了台北市以外,都沒有錢啦112.104.102.201 07/28 01:46
推 suzuki:其實錢對中央來說都是小錢,我只希望112.104.102.201 07/28 01:48
→ suzuki:不管補多補少...好好辦好活動比較重要!112.104.102.201 07/28 01:49
→ lionbank:寫這些只是告訴大家中央政府並沒有大小眼 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:50
→ lionbank:世運主轉播媒體經費2億700萬元 全額補助 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:51
→ suzuki:台北高雄本來的資源本來就不同.不能這樣比112.104.102.201 07/28 01:51
→ lionbank:聽奧的現在沒看到不知道 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:51
→ suzuki:中央不補錢,高雄什麼都沒法做,台北就算中112.104.102.201 07/28 01:52
→ suzuki:央不補錢,我相信他還是有能力自己生錢出來112.104.102.201 07/28 01:52
推 rwhung:台北田徑場就30億了 怎麼可能硬體只有29.7 122.123.82.18 07/28 01:53
→ suzuki:這是一直以來都存在的事實!112.104.102.201 07/28 01:53
→ lionbank:多的就是台北市自己出囉 114.45.139.106 07/28 01:53
推 cometfr:沒有大小眼?值得玩味123.205.226.169 07/28 01:54
推 pepe31530:不管花多少錢只要辦好都是值得的 114.42.101.73 07/28 01:54
推 rwhung:不贊成PE大的辦好就好~~錢還是該用才用 122.123.82.18 07/28 02:02
→ rwhung:用預算蓋不是比賽場次就要噓 122.123.82.18 07/28 02:03
→ rwhung:我認為一定會辦的很好 因為丟不起那個臉 122.123.82.18 07/28 02:05
推 rwhung:世運給了高雄人一個美好回憶 就看聽奧能不 122.123.82.18 07/28 02:08
→ rwhung:不能給台北人另一個美好回憶了(市民參與) 122.123.82.18 07/28 02:08
推 ginkna:2大家為何不給聽奧支持呢? 122.117.28.40 07/28 04:55
→ mokserpent:聽說到時還會動員學生去看,包車唷122.122.117.176 07/28 06:57
推 losterchen:這讓我想起了以前中油的營業稅是繳給北 59.104.17.215 07/28 08:15
→ losterchen:市,但污染卻在高雄 高雄一毛稅收也沒有 59.104.17.215 07/28 08:16
→ losterchen:光統籌分配就很不公平了 真的差非常多 59.104.17.215 07/28 08:18
推 amilu:感謝查資料回文,我是查新聞說從7->11億 203.64.247.96 07/28 09:30
推 semicoma:ginkna 所以非台北市不爽台北市是真實存 124.8.142.50 07/28 11:34
→ semicoma:在的 這有它的歷史脈絡 無法用一句"為什 124.8.142.50 07/28 11:35
→ semicoma:麼大家不給聽奧支持?"或者"台灣內部應該 124.8.142.50 07/28 11:35
→ semicoma:團結向外"這樣的話就能翻轉的 我的心態啦 124.8.142.50 07/28 11:36
→ semicoma:台北聽運辦得好 我會感到高興 給予掌聲 124.8.142.50 07/28 11:37
→ semicoma:辦不好丟國家臉 則會沮喪看台北市鬧笑話 124.8.142.50 07/28 11:38
→ semicoma:不過這些感覺都不牽扯到我幫台灣選手以及 124.8.142.50 07/28 11:39
→ semicoma:聽運本身的支持 124.8.142.50 07/28 11:39
推 nitro1014:若對聽運本身支持,請叫它"聽奧" 219.85.133.169 07/28 12:39
→ nitro1014:英文Deaflympics,中文叫聽奧是IOC認定 219.85.133.169 07/28 12:40
→ sherlockchan:這篇有誤導的傾向...聽奧的預算來源118.165.159.150 07/28 12:51
→ sherlockchan:不只一處,有興趣的人請自行去跟市議118.165.159.150 07/28 12:51
→ sherlockchan:員借來一看便知...郝市長很老實,所以118.165.159.150 07/28 12:52
→ sherlockchan:把上頭從他處挪給他的錢也算進去(比118.165.159.150 07/28 12:53
→ sherlockchan:如擴大內需),所以才會有那個數字118.165.159.150 07/28 12:54
97年擴大內需補助給世運 416,585,000
補助給聽奧2,472,200,000
都包含在我上面列的經費裡頭,想誤導大家的是sherlockchan你吧
→ semicoma:謝nitro 我會改叫它聽奧 124.8.142.50 07/28 13:30
※ 編輯: lionbank 來自: 114.45.139.106 (07/28 13:38) → sherlockchan:痾,現在是變預算審查了嗎?你要不要去118.165.159.150 07/28 14:26
→ sherlockchan:把教育部等的一起算進來?我知道你要118.165.159.150 07/28 14:27
→ sherlockchan:表達啥,不就是聽奧其實比世運經費更118.165.159.150 07/28 14:28
你覺得我的數據是亂講的、或是你覺得還有什麼我沒講到的
麻煩你去找資料寫出來,要不然別在這造謠生事、挑撥族群對立
※ 編輯: lionbank 來自: 114.45.139.106 (07/28 14:29)
→ sherlockchan:少而已,聽奧真的花的錢就你說那個數118.165.159.150 07/28 14:30
你自己找不出確實的數據就別在這騙人說花了多少多少錢
※ 編輯: lionbank 來自: 114.45.139.106 (07/28 14:31)
→ sherlockchan:字,那請去函糾正一下郝市長的話吧118.165.159.150 07/28 14:30
→ sherlockchan:還有,我造謠?挑撥族群?請指出,感謝118.165.159.150 07/28 14:31
你跑來這說我的數字不對,是你該指出哪裡不對,正確的是多少才是
你講不出來,只會叫我指出你哪裡造謠,這是小學生的打法吧
※ 編輯: lionbank 來自: 114.45.139.106 (07/28 14:33)
→ sherlockchan:那,我該信你的還是郝市長的?118.165.159.150 07/28 14:34
→ sherlockchan:我說的是你的數字跟郝市長不同,可能118.165.159.150 07/28 14:34
→ sherlockchan:有隱藏預算你沒看到的,那叫造謠?118.165.159.150 07/28 14:35
→ sherlockchan:別這樣激動,去看看為何你跟郝市長的118.165.159.150 07/28 14:36
→ sherlockchan:數字為何有差別,好嗎^^118.165.159.150 07/28 14:36
你把數據列出來啊,一樣一樣細項列出來看看你對還是我對
列不出來就別造謠了
※ 編輯: lionbank 來自: 114.45.139.106 (07/28 15:36)
→ hollowyears:誰對誰錯還不知道就說是別人造謠 科科 220.129.78.37 07/28 15:55
推 whyy:所以原PO是說郝市長造謠118.232.181.178 07/29 00:42
→ sherlockchan:賴聲川也在造謠吧^^昨天他是說10億118.165.159.150 07/29 07:38
→ sherlockchan:還說搞不懂政府採購法不然會更便宜118.165.159.150 07/29 07:40
→ sherlockchan:其實本來很多活動預算都是這樣弄的,118.165.159.150 07/29 07:41
→ sherlockchan:有像原PO說的專款專用的,不夠的,就看118.165.159.150 07/29 07:42
→ sherlockchan:是自己從地方預算挪用,或是高明點的118.165.159.150 07/29 07:43
→ sherlockchan:請中央配合弄些隱藏預算,也因此,除非118.165.159.150 07/29 07:46
→ sherlockchan:用力挖,不然看不到原貌.所以郝賴所說118.165.159.150 07/29 07:50
→ sherlockchan:的數字為何會跟原PO有差距,就等有心118.165.159.150 07/29 07:52
→ sherlockchan:人慢慢找囉.118.165.159.150 07/29 07:53
樓上你眼睛有問題 賴聲川什麼時候說他有10億可以用?
※ 編輯: lionbank 來自: 118.160.236.173 (07/29 11:19)
→ sherlockchan:你有在現場嗎^^問問在場的人吧^^118.165.159.150 07/29 18:49
→ sherlockchan:你要認為你是對的我是造謠就算了,結118.165.159.150 07/29 18:50
→ sherlockchan:束後會有報告,到時大家再慢慢看吧.118.165.159.150 07/29 18:51
→ sherlockchan:把心思放在支持聽奧辦好上吧118.165.159.150 07/29 18:52
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