勾天頂的問題 - NBA
By Elma
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at 2016-04-10T14:00
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※ 引述《brandon0415 (~~永無只盡~~)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《y1027330 (leon)》之銘言:
: : 先不管勇士跟灰熊這場的爭議
: : 單純好奇問一下
: : 很多球在看是否有勾天頂
: : 不都是看球有沒有碰到籃板 假如已經先接觸籃板在蓋火鍋
: : 不是都會被吹勾天頂....
: : 不過突然又想到 常常show time 前面的球員往籃板上丟 後面跟著灌進去
: : 假如照上面這樣 應該也要吹才對...
: : 於是剛剛去查了一下規則
: : During a field goal attempt, touch a ball after it has touched any part
: : of the backboard above ring level, whether the ball is considered on its
: : upward or downward flight.
: 再來最簡單的Goaltending 就是當球出手後
: 在下降的過程被其他球員碰到(不論防守還是進攻球員)都算是
: Goaltending 防守端球員碰到 球進算 反之 進攻方碰到 不算分
: 第二種Goaltending 是進攻方選擇用打板方式進攻 不論是上籃或投籃
: 只要球碰到板之後 往籃框方面移動 在這過程中 只要防守端球員 任何一位
: 碰觸到打板之後的球 一律判定為Goaltending 進球有效
: = = = = = 以上應該有回答到原PO問題= = = = = =
: 再來回到今天很熱門的話題 抓猛綠到底有沒有Goaltending
: 我想用對事不對人的方式討論這球 比較理性 所以 以下會以第3人稱方式稱呼
: 首先有兩種情形 雙方都是可以去接觸球的
: 1 球的拋物線最高點明顯比籃框低 俗稱麵包球
: 2 球下落時明顯是籃外空心
: 這個Play是 進攻球員A 上籃時選擇先打板 這時進攻球員B認為球不會碰到籃框
: 因此在球落下到籃框附近時 出手補籃 進球成功
: 當然防守方馬上抗議認為Goaltending 進球無效
: 而裁判選擇觀看Video replay 也與官方回放中心進行連線(這是他們為什麼要戴耳機的
: 原因) 因為之前有版友問為什麼要戴耳機
: 之後裁判判定 也就是上述第2點 因此可以去碰觸球 進球有效
: 有人可能會說 球會碰籃框阿 甚麼的 但說實在的 你 我 都是看電視轉播
: 看電視台提供的畫面判斷 但在怎麼樣也不會有裁判看得回放中心給的影片來的清楚
: 因此此球判定進球有效 當然也是要裁判判定才可以成立
: 在經過video replay之後 裁判判定也就是他們認為球不會碰到籃框
: 這點是不能改變的
: 以上 歡迎討論 謝謝
把不重要的刪掉
基本上你把規則弄錯了
妨礙中籃有兩個情況:
1.上升到最高點之後下降過程被碰觸
2.出手意圖中,球打到籃板之後,仍然在籃框水平面上方時被碰觸,
不論是在上升還是在下降
今天Green很明顯是第二種狀況,
注意:不論球在打到籃板之後會不會打到籃框,
只要在籃框水平面上都算是妨礙中籃,
所以不要再貼那個Green補籃的圖了,
那球就是典型的進攻妨礙中籃,只是今天違例的是進攻方所以讓很多人困惑,
如果你把這個case換成防守方可能就比較容易理解。
無法理解的是為何在重播輔助判決之後,裁判仍然做出錯誤判決,
蠻不專業的。
--
: ※ 引述《y1027330 (leon)》之銘言:
: : 先不管勇士跟灰熊這場的爭議
: : 單純好奇問一下
: : 很多球在看是否有勾天頂
: : 不都是看球有沒有碰到籃板 假如已經先接觸籃板在蓋火鍋
: : 不是都會被吹勾天頂....
: : 不過突然又想到 常常show time 前面的球員往籃板上丟 後面跟著灌進去
: : 假如照上面這樣 應該也要吹才對...
: : 於是剛剛去查了一下規則
: : During a field goal attempt, touch a ball after it has touched any part
: : of the backboard above ring level, whether the ball is considered on its
: : upward or downward flight.
: 再來最簡單的Goaltending 就是當球出手後
: 在下降的過程被其他球員碰到(不論防守還是進攻球員)都算是
: Goaltending 防守端球員碰到 球進算 反之 進攻方碰到 不算分
: 第二種Goaltending 是進攻方選擇用打板方式進攻 不論是上籃或投籃
: 只要球碰到板之後 往籃框方面移動 在這過程中 只要防守端球員 任何一位
: 碰觸到打板之後的球 一律判定為Goaltending 進球有效
: = = = = = 以上應該有回答到原PO問題= = = = = =
: 再來回到今天很熱門的話題 抓猛綠到底有沒有Goaltending
: 我想用對事不對人的方式討論這球 比較理性 所以 以下會以第3人稱方式稱呼
: 首先有兩種情形 雙方都是可以去接觸球的
: 1 球的拋物線最高點明顯比籃框低 俗稱麵包球
: 2 球下落時明顯是籃外空心
: 這個Play是 進攻球員A 上籃時選擇先打板 這時進攻球員B認為球不會碰到籃框
: 因此在球落下到籃框附近時 出手補籃 進球成功
: 當然防守方馬上抗議認為Goaltending 進球無效
: 而裁判選擇觀看Video replay 也與官方回放中心進行連線(這是他們為什麼要戴耳機的
: 原因) 因為之前有版友問為什麼要戴耳機
: 之後裁判判定 也就是上述第2點 因此可以去碰觸球 進球有效
: 有人可能會說 球會碰籃框阿 甚麼的 但說實在的 你 我 都是看電視轉播
: 看電視台提供的畫面判斷 但在怎麼樣也不會有裁判看得回放中心給的影片來的清楚
: 因此此球判定進球有效 當然也是要裁判判定才可以成立
: 在經過video replay之後 裁判判定也就是他們認為球不會碰到籃框
: 這點是不能改變的
: 以上 歡迎討論 謝謝
把不重要的刪掉
基本上你把規則弄錯了
妨礙中籃有兩個情況:
1.上升到最高點之後下降過程被碰觸
2.出手意圖中,球打到籃板之後,仍然在籃框水平面上方時被碰觸,
不論是在上升還是在下降
今天Green很明顯是第二種狀況,
注意:不論球在打到籃板之後會不會打到籃框,
只要在籃框水平面上都算是妨礙中籃,
所以不要再貼那個Green補籃的圖了,
那球就是典型的進攻妨礙中籃,只是今天違例的是進攻方所以讓很多人困惑,
如果你把這個case換成防守方可能就比較容易理解。
無法理解的是為何在重播輔助判決之後,裁判仍然做出錯誤判決,
蠻不專業的。
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