不甩「最差情境」大巨蛋防災模擬修正通過 - 棒球
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https://udn.com/news/story/7323/4103777
大巨蛋今天下午第7度闖進台北市都市設計審議委員會,
遠雄上次提出防災避難的電腦模擬,在「最差情境」跑不出結果,
電腦模擬軟體的英國設計單位回函,指並非電腦當機,
是人留疏散極為緩慢,
北市府今天拋出解套方案,針對大巨蛋園區的避難壅塞點,建議部
分一樓作為半戶外空間,討論超過3小時,最後遠雄表示,願意接受北市府提出方案。
豈料,都審會主席、台北市局長黃景茂隨即詢問在場委員,是否有意見,示意防災避難的
議題就這樣通過,讓在場的民進黨市議員簡舒培大感不滿,痛批大巨蛋「最差情境」過不
了,結果部分淨空後,竟然就可以直接通過?那前面開這麼多次會議幹嘛?到底要不要重
做模擬,再提送至下次都審討論?
簡舒培數度追問在場委員,如果這次部分淨空,到底可以爭取多少逃生時間、空間,在場
有人可以說明?委員之一許宗熙表示,如果滯留空間變大,相對人的密度減少,只要密度
減少,移動速度會變快。
簡舒培詢問,所以「快多少」,
委員許宗熙愣一下回說「用相對論」、「算也不是我在算」;
時代力量市議員林亮君也問,到底是承受什麼壓力,為何要急著今天通過?
對於議員質疑,有委員認為,確實應該重跑一次模擬,
但台北市都發局表示「我們認為已經完成6個(模擬)情境」,
但就交由委員討論;最後黃景茂仍執意「這是委員共識」,
裁示修正通過。
大巨蛋距離全面復工仍有3關,包括都審、環評、建照變更。其中,都審會仍有3大議題,
包括防災避難模擬、消防救災計畫、交通議題,今天晚間6點3分,都審會已裁示,防災避
難模擬的議題,確定修正通過,現正持續審議消防救災計畫、交通議題。
台北市長柯文哲今上午赴議會針對大巨蛋等重大工程進行專案報告,台北市議員陳建銘當
場詢問,民眾都很關心大巨蛋的進度,到底有沒有機會在這一任期內完工?;柯文哲則是
首度鬆口表示,盡量啦,有機會啦,不過後面還有很多問題。
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https://reurl.cc/Qp47Oo
影片在這,前面有一篇會議結束前一個半小時就急著上來噴議員的,
我是很懷疑到底有多急啦?
總之就是,遠雄原本有一個防災疏散系統的電腦模擬跑不過
然後今天北市都發局"提出一個建議"說:
遠雄你把一部份的空間縮進去,改成半室外式的,減少室內人數好不好
然後遠雄就答應了
爭議點,也是前面某篇噴最兇的某議員不滿的地方來了!!!!
主持人也是台北市都發局長就宣布說:
遠雄要縮了,那逃生這邊也不用再模擬,合格了
議員(其實也不只簡舒培一位,還有林亮君)就提出質疑:
阿你要退多少才合格也不知道,為什麼可以不用再跑模擬??
這種感覺要我比喻的話
就像是小明本來考試不及格,要過的辦法就是重考到過為止
在補考幾次還沒過之後,教授跟小明說回去讀認真一點就會過了
然後小明說好....
結果小明回去認真讀書(也不知道到底多認真)
結果下次來,不用補考就過了
????
至於前面說的不尊重專業意見喔?
影片 3:21:12 開始 ,大家可以聽真正"專業"的都審委員說什麼,
委員應該比我和各位鄉民專業啦
連續兩位都審委員都說了:
這樣退,退多少,到底有沒有效根本不知道,應該做完模擬,
看到結果再來討論
對,然後最後的結局就是:
台北市都發局長宣布:這是委員共識。
然後就通過了
--
https://udn.com/news/story/7323/4103777
大巨蛋今天下午第7度闖進台北市都市設計審議委員會,
遠雄上次提出防災避難的電腦模擬,在「最差情境」跑不出結果,
電腦模擬軟體的英國設計單位回函,指並非電腦當機,
是人留疏散極為緩慢,
北市府今天拋出解套方案,針對大巨蛋園區的避難壅塞點,建議部
分一樓作為半戶外空間,討論超過3小時,最後遠雄表示,願意接受北市府提出方案。
豈料,都審會主席、台北市局長黃景茂隨即詢問在場委員,是否有意見,示意防災避難的
議題就這樣通過,讓在場的民進黨市議員簡舒培大感不滿,痛批大巨蛋「最差情境」過不
了,結果部分淨空後,竟然就可以直接通過?那前面開這麼多次會議幹嘛?到底要不要重
做模擬,再提送至下次都審討論?
簡舒培數度追問在場委員,如果這次部分淨空,到底可以爭取多少逃生時間、空間,在場
有人可以說明?委員之一許宗熙表示,如果滯留空間變大,相對人的密度減少,只要密度
減少,移動速度會變快。
簡舒培詢問,所以「快多少」,
委員許宗熙愣一下回說「用相對論」、「算也不是我在算」;
時代力量市議員林亮君也問,到底是承受什麼壓力,為何要急著今天通過?
對於議員質疑,有委員認為,確實應該重跑一次模擬,
但台北市都發局表示「我們認為已經完成6個(模擬)情境」,
但就交由委員討論;最後黃景茂仍執意「這是委員共識」,
裁示修正通過。
大巨蛋距離全面復工仍有3關,包括都審、環評、建照變更。其中,都審會仍有3大議題,
包括防災避難模擬、消防救災計畫、交通議題,今天晚間6點3分,都審會已裁示,防災避
難模擬的議題,確定修正通過,現正持續審議消防救災計畫、交通議題。
台北市長柯文哲今上午赴議會針對大巨蛋等重大工程進行專案報告,台北市議員陳建銘當
場詢問,民眾都很關心大巨蛋的進度,到底有沒有機會在這一任期內完工?;柯文哲則是
首度鬆口表示,盡量啦,有機會啦,不過後面還有很多問題。
==============================================
https://reurl.cc/Qp47Oo
影片在這,前面有一篇會議結束前一個半小時就急著上來噴議員的,
我是很懷疑到底有多急啦?
總之就是,遠雄原本有一個防災疏散系統的電腦模擬跑不過
然後今天北市都發局"提出一個建議"說:
遠雄你把一部份的空間縮進去,改成半室外式的,減少室內人數好不好
然後遠雄就答應了
爭議點,也是前面某篇噴最兇的某議員不滿的地方來了!!!!
主持人也是台北市都發局長就宣布說:
遠雄要縮了,那逃生這邊也不用再模擬,合格了
議員(其實也不只簡舒培一位,還有林亮君)就提出質疑:
阿你要退多少才合格也不知道,為什麼可以不用再跑模擬??
這種感覺要我比喻的話
就像是小明本來考試不及格,要過的辦法就是重考到過為止
在補考幾次還沒過之後,教授跟小明說回去讀認真一點就會過了
然後小明說好....
結果小明回去認真讀書(也不知道到底多認真)
結果下次來,不用補考就過了
????
至於前面說的不尊重專業意見喔?
影片 3:21:12 開始 ,大家可以聽真正"專業"的都審委員說什麼,
委員應該比我和各位鄉民專業啦
連續兩位都審委員都說了:
這樣退,退多少,到底有沒有效根本不知道,應該做完模擬,
看到結果再來討論
對,然後最後的結局就是:
台北市都發局長宣布:這是委員共識。
然後就通過了
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