TD與MJ誰更適合做建隊基石? - NBA

By Irma
at 2015-05-05T13:47

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理性討論

兩個人都是當時代最偉大球員無庸置疑

一個掌控了90年代一個稱霸最近的十多年

兩個人的隊友因為都有優秀的球員所以難以比較

數據來說

MJ TD

總冠軍 6 5

FMVP 6 3

MVP 5 2

ALL STAR 14 14

ALL STAR MVP 3 1

第一隊 10 10

第二隊 1 2

防守第一隊 9 8

季賽得分王 10 0

個人覺得兩人生涯成績都是各種豐功偉業

以球隊基石來說個人覺得TD比較適合

因為他的奪冠年數從1999橫跨2014

整整16年馬刺都是奪冠勁旅

聯盟其他球隊長期活在陰影之中人心惶惶

顫抖著害怕那頭季後賽就會變身的怪獸

而相較之下 MJ統治NBA是8個年頭

從1991-1998 其中兩年還消失

不可否認這幾年之間公牛處在一個巔峰

但是若以長遠來看

TD就是有種選到就讓球隊馬上強盛十五年的感覺

而且成熟穩重以孤獨求敗的劍來說是重劍無鋒大巧不工

MJ則是凌厲剛猛，無堅不摧的利劍

如果各位是GM 會選擇哪位當球隊的基石呢?

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All Comments

By Tracy
at 2015-05-08T07:37

LeBron James

By Genevieve
at 2015-05-12T01:21

TD連KB都比不過

By Charlotte
at 2015-05-16T12:06

MJ吧這很好選

By Barb Cronin
at 2015-05-21T11:56

未看先推老大kobe

By Lily
at 2015-05-23T12:03

過往的人就不用討論這種問題了馬後炮而已

By Robert
at 2015-05-24T23:42

TD有點綁定popo感覺才能威那麼久

By Rae
at 2015-05-25T10:45

全力支持not7的姆斯

By Joe
at 2015-05-27T00:25

MJ
人跟神，當然選神

By Tristan Cohan
at 2015-05-29T08:33

有人拿史上前10甚至前5的球星來互相比較建隊基石?

By Carol
at 2015-06-03T04:57

何止基石, 都快要變活化石了

By Harry
at 2015-06-03T18:27

By Kyle
at 2015-06-07T20:06

TD根本活化石越打越年輕

By Noah
at 2015-06-08T19:21

LP比G腿

By Tom
at 2015-06-13T11:33

為什麼MJ只有八年阿 TD就16年

By John
at 2015-06-18T05:27

看你的宗教信仰，信神選MJ，信佛選TD

By Harry
at 2015-06-20T14:58

鑽石跟基石等級是不同的

By Erin
at 2015-06-23T23:11

拿冠軍:TD>MJ>>>>KB 收入MJ>KB>>>>>>>TD....

By Megan
at 2015-06-27T23:29

我選Bill Russell

By Charlotte
at 2015-06-29T08:58

都不錯 MJ略勝KB TD有稍微看到KB的車尾燈

By Tristan Cohan
at 2015-07-02T17:49

我會選POPO

By Iris
at 2015-07-07T09:51

我選歐尼爾=

By Puput
at 2015-07-08T09:07

任何西瓜配那兩個都拿不到冠軍

By Andrew
at 2015-07-13T02:05

一個兩度三連霸AFK 一個沒衛冕過怎麼比

By Una
at 2015-07-16T12:02

當然是TD 選MJ他會打到一半跑去打棒球

By Elma
at 2015-07-19T07:54

佛教選TD 回教選KB

By Isabella
at 2015-07-21T15:00

基石姆斯

By Christine
at 2015-07-26T11:57

我選勝文

By Liam
at 2015-07-27T21:26

MJ要不要九連霸超越骨灰賽真的只是要或不要的問題

By Edith
at 2015-07-28T21:47

MJ.KB.歐尼爾都跟傑克森撈不少冠軍戒

By Mason
at 2015-08-01T09:18

八年以外的球季，CHI難道不曾被視為奪冠勁旅嗎...

By Isabella
at 2015-08-02T00:08

都不錯一內一外

By Frederica
at 2015-08-04T00:25

問題是你拿不到

By Quanna
at 2015-08-08T13:08

TD 找的隊友範圍大多了 MJ要有適合的隊友比較難

By Yuri
at 2015-08-12T04:38

姆斯：我兩個都想要...可以嗎？拜偷

By Harry
at 2015-08-16T13:49

當然是姆斯

By Hedda
at 2015-08-18T23:34

拿佛跟神比??????? 疑好像可以

By James
at 2015-08-23T04:12

要冠軍td 要賺錢mj

By Harry
at 2015-08-26T12:57

TD可以強15年，但是MJ可以直接挑戰總冠軍的

By Jessica
at 2015-08-31T10:41

我信佛，選TD!

By Freda
at 2015-09-05T09:54

MJ把隊友當狗罵反觀我佛......慈悲有鍋他扛
降薪舉手

By Yedda
at 2015-09-07T12:42

84選MJ 87選大羅中間MJ打棒球 97選TD 強！

By Kristin
at 2015-09-12T02:53

當然是移動基石姆斯。基石長成後還可以完整移隊

By Hazel
at 2015-09-13T06:59

一個神一個不老實佛好難選阿不過不要妄想了好嗎

By Kelly
at 2015-09-14T07:44

TD，MJ那陣容誰都能拿冠軍，只是不一定是六冠

By Zora
at 2015-09-16T12:51

Mj兩次三連霸

By Daniel
at 2015-09-20T02:02

下一篇先猜 MJ VS TD 哪個強

By Iris
at 2015-09-21T21:54

表格還可以補上KOBE的

By Belly
at 2015-09-25T09:28

絕對是大歐

By Daniel
at 2015-09-29T00:45

TD會降薪還要選嗎? MJ要不是有皮朋公牛薪資早卡死了

By Kama
at 2015-10-02T21:29

姆斯可以吸引很多大腿

By Dora
at 2015-10-06T20:54

馬後砲什麼那個陣容都能拿冠軍無聊

By Andrew
at 2015-10-08T18:32

絕對選LBJ 看數據就知道酸酸只有軟手能說嘴

By Andy
at 2015-10-09T06:25

姆斯保證最快轉走

By Sierra Rose
at 2015-10-12T07:09

我佛你

By Kristin
at 2015-10-13T08:30

mj也是綁定phil

By Faithe
at 2015-10-14T07:03

肯定是MJ 有票房有冠軍

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2015-10-15T15:23

以老闆角度選MJ 以教練角度選TD
選MJ收益高超有經濟價值選TD這麼老實還自動降薪
揪甘心 <3

By Joseph
at 2015-10-16T23:39

.連霸都沒 fmvp也不全是他勉強跟kobe打平而已

By Daph Bay
at 2015-10-17T23:40

TD沒有0.67

By George
at 2015-10-18T12:08

MJ不是只有公牛王朝那8年6次打進季後賽OK...

By Edwina
at 2015-10-20T00:06

Duncan, 但大市場還是選MJ 才爽

By Ula
at 2015-10-23T01:26

你拿宇宙魔方當基石喔？太奢侈了吧

By Donna
at 2015-10-27T06:55

空2年不然就8連霸了

By Jack
at 2015-10-30T01:00

你拿出來比的,除了年度第二隊,MJ不是打平就是贏
選誰還需要考慮嗎?

By Heather
at 2015-11-02T04:12

By Kumar
at 2015-11-06T23:01

By Dinah
at 2015-11-11T16:07

絕對是我豪

By Necoo
at 2015-11-16T04:03

隨便選一個都賺到翻 MJ能把籃球推廣到全世界超吸金

By Jessica
at 2015-11-17T04:43

基石幾年會有一個，MJ就一個，沒什麼好比的

By Caitlin
at 2015-11-17T17:00

TD是難得的天才長人選哪個都沒錯

By Rebecca
at 2015-11-20T20:53

TD真的很強但拿來跟MJ比 = = 刺迷別像科迷吧

By Catherine
at 2015-11-25T03:06

想要戰TD已經要拿MJ出來才行了嗎?

By Ina
at 2015-11-26T12:29

我也不懂為什麼是MJ

By Caroline
at 2015-12-01T03:44

推 danny87123：刺迷別像科迷吧....

By Eden
at 2015-12-02T02:18

商業價值沒得比吧

By Dorothy
at 2015-12-02T18:28

長人本來就比較好當基石跟mj比還行吧
又不是比誰強

By Queena
at 2015-12-06T20:05

By Heather
at 2015-12-11T04:12

當然是MJ 周邊商品爽爽賣

By Madame
at 2015-12-14T10:48

應該問84要選ola還mj吧

By Carolina Franco
at 2015-12-15T14:40

TD還是新人還能打15年，等打完再說吧

By Isabella
at 2015-12-19T18:19

MJ啊歷史只會告訴你他拿了六冠 6FMVP 5MVP

By Michael
at 2015-12-21T15:12

By Rachel
at 2015-12-23T03:25

等等然後在後面備註史上最偉大籃球員

By Christine
at 2015-12-27T10:01

LBJ會幫你收集狀元籤又能贏球

By Damian
at 2015-12-28T18:53

MJ數據比喇叭詹還喇叭還需要說明什麼

By Robert
at 2016-01-01T06:44

By Hamiltion
at 2016-01-05T01:42

講建隊基石絕對是選長人

By Agatha
at 2016-01-09T23:22

有超級長人再來找副手並不難
反之困難重重

By Hedwig
at 2016-01-13T06:35

By Zora
at 2016-01-17T12:17

當然選MJ 根本懶叫比雞腿

By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-01-20T06:15

MJ數據比喇叭詹還喇叭

By Robert
at 2016-01-21T22:57

不管是要票房周邊賺錢冠軍榮耀都是選MJ..

By Donna
at 2016-01-23T01:07

By Olive
at 2016-01-25T17:06

一個從沒連霸過，一個兩度三連霸完全不同層級

By Regina
at 2016-01-29T19:40

神跟佛,你選誰

By Poppy
at 2016-02-01T14:38

TD，優質長人一定優先。

By Yuri
at 2016-02-05T07:35

TD 老了還可以當新人打

By Aaliyah
at 2016-02-05T18:53

MJ 拿到根本不用重建

By Carol
at 2016-02-08T07:25

LBJ

By Quanna
at 2016-02-10T11:14

抱大腿度 LBJ>KB>MJ>TD 因為馬刺明星球員都自己養的

By Oliver
at 2016-02-14T15:36

TD運氣好剛進nba遇到肯教肯讓位的大羅和延長生涯
的波波 MJ不管到哪隊都會是MJ

By Isla
at 2016-02-17T07:35

你不能拿MJ神來比...任何"人"跟"神"是沒有可比性的

By Frederica
at 2016-02-20T13:45

而TD只是一個新秀好嗎? 二者沒有可比性

By Selena
at 2016-02-25T02:23

當然MJ TD沒辦法像MJ一樣季後賽爆發扛整場

By Ida
at 2016-02-29T09:22

如果MJ沒三度退休...

By Liam
at 2016-03-02T04:30

籃球之佛鄧肯

By Bethany
at 2016-03-06T02:03

我是覺得這兩人都在KB之下

By Franklin
at 2016-03-08T07:07

TD 一票

By Quanna
at 2016-03-09T15:20

石佛嗎挖姆斯拉還有缺人嗎

By Candice
at 2016-03-10T19:40

By Cara
at 2016-03-13T05:44

TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Todd Johnson
at 2016-03-16T20:27

刺迷別太離譜了，MJ都拿來比

By Edward Lewis
at 2016-03-17T08:45

以一開始選秀來說應該是TD吧優質長人

By Victoria
at 2016-03-20T13:59

我想噓

By Ethan
at 2016-03-23T22:09

TD是因為馬刺體系....換一隊你確定可以變強很多?

By Elvira
at 2016-03-27T20:17

要也拿別人拿MJ也太扯

By Faithe
at 2016-03-29T05:50

摳比阿還用說

By Bennie
at 2016-04-02T12:08

拿MJ是要自取其辱嗎？

By Daniel
at 2016-04-03T08:21

是馬刺體系靠TD才能發展完成不是TD靠馬刺體系護佑

By Victoria
at 2016-04-06T17:28

MJ...也是禪師來才開始強大的...別忘天下第二人，籃
板王！！！

By Skylar Davis
at 2016-04-07T13:16

Pop剛接教練還曾經被SA當地球迷連署要趕他走人

By Belly
at 2016-04-10T23:09

討論TD時建議要分清楚這一點

By David
at 2016-04-14T05:17

用日後成就來比較根本是馬後砲，如果兩人是同年選秀
，我想一半以上會先選TD

By Emma
at 2016-04-15T16:17

當然，因為當年MJ也不是狀元

By Catherine
at 2016-04-19T07:23

當然阿選前選TD 選後選MJ
這篇原PO是列選後的數據用屁股想也知道一定選MJ

By Anonymous
at 2016-04-23T14:36

馬刺體系是靠TD好嗎

By Brianna
at 2016-04-27T23:56

還有MJ是靠體系的話，那他去打棒球公牛不還繼續連霸
捧到都升天了

By Mason
at 2016-05-01T14:54

推 FOXHUNTER :看你的宗教信仰，信神選MJ，信佛選TD

By Tom
at 2016-05-05T20:59

選前TD，長人要建隊成功姓跟穩定性高太多了，選MJ要
花很多腦筋跟冒很多風險

By Skylar Davis
at 2016-05-10T07:12

要想想看MJ帶來多少龐大利益老闆用想的就濕了

By Anthony
at 2016-05-14T08:52

90年代，4個中鋒都被MJ壓過，你確定會選TD當基石?

By Joe
at 2016-05-15T23:59

怎麼可能選連KOBE都比不過的TD？

By Agnes
at 2016-05-17T16:54

沒有Popo幫TD養生早就要退了，TD的偉大有一定程度是
因為POPO

By Ursula
at 2016-05-18T02:08

By Ursula
at 2016-05-19T18:35

Td比不過kb只有強肩迷才會這樣想吧

By Ophelia
at 2016-05-23T14:35

兩個都是絕對基石但我選MJ 因為票房會更棒XDD

By Quanna
at 2016-05-26T06:30

TD前期幫大羅圓夢幫POPO成為名帥然後從大羅那學習

By Joseph
at 2016-05-27T22:46

從POPO那養身這組人是水幫魚魚幫水沒啥好分誰靠誰

By Lauren
at 2016-05-30T15:15

我認為最難選就三人:MJ Shaq TD

By Adele
at 2016-06-03T16:51

這兩個不用比 MJ還是比TD偉大
TD是最偉大PF 但是MJ是最偉大球員

By Yuri
at 2016-06-06T19:38

有shaq選shaq

By Quanna
at 2016-06-07T10:50

By Caroline
at 2016-06-08T15:05

怎拿個五個陪冠,WS老二的KB來比TD的第一,反差嗎

By Rebecca
at 2016-06-09T08:52

我選Duncan,但有MJ在的話他可能很難拿這麼多冠

By Olivia
at 2016-06-12T09:32

馬龍就被擋了一整個生涯，悲劇英雄

By Lauren
at 2016-06-16T19:28

6大於5 還真的在認真討論喔

By Regina
at 2016-06-20T17:27

佛vs神

By Charlotte
at 2016-06-24T19:00

MJ吧公牛畢竟有連霸過馬刺從沒有

By Susan
at 2016-06-27T17:24

By John
at 2016-07-02T15:59

By Carol
at 2016-07-03T12:21

By Jack
at 2016-07-06T00:05

By Selena
at 2016-07-06T08:20

當時的公牛換勒布朗來帶早80勝 + 10連霸
佐敦只有自幹和臭嘴贏勒布朗其它輸到脫褲

By Frederica
at 2016-07-11T00:03

MJ放到任何年代都有連霸可能,TD放到90要對到四大...

By Tracy
at 2016-07-12T21:09

當然是紅色光頭MJ，TD能否贏大夢都是個問題

By George
at 2016-07-14T05:25

如果現在選秀應該會選TD！但看成就就MJ了！

By Jack
at 2016-07-18T13:52

如果是當年跟MJ一起選秀 TD應該還是狀元

By Liam
at 2016-07-23T09:10

只有歐拉和歐肥我會排比MJ前面

By Regina
at 2016-07-26T12:24

沒人會想到TD能這麼長青吧

By Gilbert
at 2016-07-27T13:18

選秀多半以長人先考慮所以歐拉才會狀元

By Audriana
at 2016-07-27T17:45

By Catherine
at 2016-07-29T04:17

Malone跟TD算是同等級的，不考慮薪資的話答案很簡單

By Faithe
at 2016-08-01T04:11

TD遇到湖人就挺慘的有歐尼爾回到90年代四大中鋒

By Oliver
at 2016-08-01T18:34

Kobe也配跟Duncan比? 洗洗睡去~~~~

By Edith
at 2016-08-03T05:58

還要幫TD配置一堆骯髒球員很麻煩你知道嗎?

By Susan
at 2016-08-06T09:29

MJ 光個人魅力就賺飽飽了這年頭適合猛衝短期資金

By Kristin
at 2016-08-09T23:15

兩個擺在同一年選一定選TD阿選MJ大部分都是馬後砲

By Yedda
at 2016-08-10T10:57

mj連kb都打不過

By Barb Cronin
at 2016-08-11T10:12

以MJ建隊有票房週邊又有冠軍

By Tracy
at 2016-08-14T21:28

關鍵在popo

By Susan
at 2016-08-19T11:02

林書豪

By Thomas
at 2016-08-22T14:50

Lbj打不贏就轉隊~還有人選他當基石~呵呵

By Franklin
at 2016-08-27T10:11

MJ唯一解比市場價值沒人看得到喬神車尾燈啦

By Harry
at 2016-08-30T12:43

其實一進來光是長人就該先選TD

By Hazel
at 2016-09-04T01:25

MJ阿廢話

By Victoria
at 2016-09-06T08:50

MJ阿，不用十年就六冠，TD還要十幾年才五冠

By Edward Lewis
at 2016-09-10T05:02

MJ不搞一退二退就十冠四萬了

By Hedda
at 2016-09-14T23:31

基石的定義沒說是要怎麼選

By Sierra Rose
at 2016-09-18T01:51

只要你有大腿姆絲就會自己湊過來惹

By Bennie
at 2016-09-20T16:31

事實是當年選秀順位歐拉還在MJ的前面......

By Caroline
at 2016-09-25T10:44

你覺得換成TD跟MJ在同年選秀 TD會在MJ後面嗎?

By Todd Johnson
at 2016-09-29T19:23

選秀TD贏阿，但後續對球隊的影響MJ的宰制力實在恐怖

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2016-10-03T00:28

MJ...這太好選了

By William
at 2016-10-06T04:04

喬丹在場上,你不會覺得有人能擊敗他..以前大家都是
等著看對手怎麼輸而已

By Skylar Davis
at 2016-10-08T04:55

沒有波波 TD大概已經退休了生涯可能場均30之類的

By Rebecca
at 2016-10-11T16:57

選秀TD贏那就已經回答完原po的問題了還討論什麼

By Regina
at 2016-10-12T20:35

討論數據獎項冠軍成就到底有什麼意義? GM在選球隊

By Blanche
at 2016-10-15T07:05

基石時是看得到這些東西喔?

By Noah
at 2016-10-19T01:48

By Emma
at 2016-10-21T17:14

當然選TD 另外拿KB出來說嘴的別鬧了好嗎

By Daniel
at 2016-10-22T10:08

TD 中鋒永遠首選

By Margaret
at 2016-10-27T01:01

絕對是MJ

By Isla
at 2016-10-30T06:05

MJ呀看過MJ打球就會知道「籃球之神」不是吹捧

By Emma
at 2016-11-02T21:59

而是會打籃球的人心中自然的讚嘆

By Liam
at 2016-11-06T15:04

不老石

By Blanche
at 2016-11-11T06:27

MJ強在不看籃球的人都想看他打球ＴＤ就模範生

By Delia
at 2016-11-11T23:28

就像你不聽MJ的歌也知道MJ的招牌動作是MGG

By Odelette
at 2016-11-13T11:03

拿MJ比有點太誇張

By Ida
at 2016-11-17T02:23

TD,頂級內線長人能打20年不衰老

By Regina
at 2016-11-19T17:58

臺灣佛教徒應該比較多吧

By Lucy
at 2016-11-22T22:47

TD 拿MJ比剛好

By Agnes
at 2016-11-24T20:45

絕對是popo靠td建馬刺

By Doris
at 2016-11-26T03:15

先說說TD跟Karl Malone打誰贏?

By Barb Cronin
at 2016-11-30T01:29

By Ida
at 2016-12-02T10:29

當然是柯P

By Erin
at 2016-12-07T07:46

爆

By Donna
at 2016-12-08T16:09

8年6戒 16年5戒

By Edward Lewis
at 2016-12-13T09:08

大歐阿~~~~~~~

TD與MJ誰更適合做建隊基石? - NBA

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