Re: [討論]馬刺當年怎麼不選Jokic? - NBA

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By Franklin
at 2020-09-17T08:21

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https://www.nbadraft.net/players/nikola-jokic/
這是當年他的選秀報告
https://imgur.com/bs1U8E8
除了Size拿到9分, 投射能力8分之外, 其他的都是7分
速度跟運動能力還只給了他6分

NBA Comparison: Nikola Vucivic

模板是Vucivic

Strengths: Very high basketball IQ, This is his greatest strength. Strong
personality. A team player. Has a great work ethic … Tremendous length …
Can really shoot the ball … Hard worker … He was first introduced to real
professional training – strength and conditioning as well as basketball
workouts in September of 2013 and has shown tremendous improvement in his
body … Possesses a big wingpan … Considering the fact that he competes in
the Adriatic league, where most players are older than he is, and also that he
’s an average athlete, he uses his basketball IQ to succeedNikola
understands the game really well. Furthermore he is able to follow and
execute coach’s instructions. Shows a winning attitude, competes hard in
games and practices … A self starter, doesn’t need to constantly be pushed
to get the most of his abilties … Well liked by teammates, outgoing, strong
character, doesn’t drink or smoke … Young player, born in February of 1995


強項: 極高的籃球智商, 但球探覺得他之前的成功是因為所處的Adriatic聯盟多數球員
都年紀比較大, 他只是跟average player, 是靠著他的球商獲得成功的. 同時球探也表
示, Jokic能理解並執行教練的戰術指令, 有想贏的心態, 無論是練習還是比賽他都很拼

Weaknesses: An average athlete lacking great speed and leaping ability
Foot speed is a big liability. He may struggle to stay in front of NBA
athletes at the center position … Needs to improve as a post player, gain
strength and develop a repertoire of back to the basket moves … Defense is a
real weakness at this point due to lack of lateral speed and lack of
strength. His length is a big plus, but he’ll need to continue to work on
becoming stronger and learn to anticipate in order to overcome his lack of
quickness … Despite being a younger guy, his upside appears limited by his
lack of explosiveness and foot speed …

弱項: 看起來好像是對肥宅的刻板印象, 慢 & 對抗性不足

Notes: Impressed at the 2014 Nike Hoop Summit with his outside shooting …

備註: 2014 Nike盃他的外圍投射著實令人驚艷



基本上覺得球探報告寫的也沒錯啦
只是太低估了球商對整體的影響
他還是慢, 但他屢次換防時非常努力的跟著跑動
防守端就算拼不上頂極也能算中等
另一方面, 高球商也讓他在補防協防時產生一定程度的加分
很少看到他漏人

進攻方面, 高球商的展現, 讓他成為能在禁區分球四方助攻的可怕傳導中樞
令人驚艷的外圍投射則演變出可以砍三分的大砲塔
或許這就是報告裡提到的, 他不管練習還是比賽都很努力的結果

順帶一提同年選秀Top 4的報告分析圖 (依照順序)
Andrew Wiggins: 模板 Vince Carter/Rudy Gay
https://imgur.com/YjqMQXP

Jabari Parker: 模版 Melo
https://imgur.com/v1mtxOF

Joel Embiid 模板 TD / 大夢
https://imgur.com/MBMJSjD

Aaron Gordon 模板 Faried
https://imgur.com/QeBY5XO


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Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2020-09-17T18:40
球商是什麼?能吃嗎? 一堆人好像較重視臂展 XDD
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2020-09-18T15:45
回一樓 想想白邊
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-09-19T02:50
肥宅之光
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2020-09-23T21:31
有沒有模板是喬丹或LBJ的大物要選秀啊
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2020-09-27T20:20
主要還是球商很難量化,否則歷年來球商看似不錯但是
身體完全跟不上導致消失在聯盟的新秀還少嗎。
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2020-09-30T15:52
阿肥加油
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2020-10-04T06:08
球商太抽象 你說很高誰知道有多高?
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2020-10-08T19:12
數據應該要分體型胖跟不胖
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2020-10-09T16:47
球商很難判斷 但Jokic的傳球視野跟技巧確實厲害
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2020-10-11T00:21
沒想到Faried也可以當模板
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2020-10-11T02:19
Jeremy Lin也可以當模板阿
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2020-10-11T07:48
吃百二真的可惜有那雙膝蓋...
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2020-10-14T07:13
AG模板太低了吧
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-10-17T03:57
模板是Faried跟模板是書豪哪個比較慘
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2020-10-20T00:55
希望他可以打爆湖人
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2020-10-23T14:45
lin最自豪的是傳球?你假林迷吧 明明就是size
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-10-24T03:10
猶他爵士選一個模板是MJ的來
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2020-10-25T10:40
結果:態度決定高度
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2020-10-30T09:22
林86感覺不差啊 怎落選啊
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2020-11-01T16:31
Lin的技能組最重要的是第一步加速,速度沒了整組廢
掉,連擋拆都打不好,只能靠中距離和賴犯規掙扎求
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2020-11-04T08:45
lin最有優勢的應該是啟動速度吧
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2020-11-04T09:52
他的防守接下來碰到湖人禁區可以驗證一下 畢竟湖人
禁區類型都有
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2020-11-07T03:38
為什麼你的圖沒看到模板人物的名字?
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2020-11-09T00:24
這種球員就真的很難選,不同聯盟的球商太難評價
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2020-11-10T15:40
白邊是情商吧....
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2020-11-13T04:53
讓我想到當年沙波尼斯如果年輕就來NBA可能是這模樣
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2020-11-17T11:23
球商至少能後天養成,身高臂展多少就是多少
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-11-19T04:36
鉛筆今年我看差TD不只一兩條街的距離
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2020-11-20T06:18
老沙運動能力比阿肥好太多了,他是可以跟上將放對奔
跑的角色
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2020-11-24T18:51
白邊的Rreport完全沒提到球商喔, fyi
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-11-28T04:36
小丑剛開始金塊迷還不是場場嘴,叫教練換他下去
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2020-12-03T04:13
球探不重視心理層面的毛病何時能改掉
Una avatar
By Una
at 2020-12-07T07:54
Jokic有幾波傳球真的有TD的影子
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2020-12-09T20:37
年輕的沙波尼斯是超巨大飛人 不一定會以傳導為主
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-12-10T08:54
球商要看對手層級 對手太弱你打人家打成智障也沒用
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-12-15T00:15
球探報告不重視心理素質跟球商啊
lin就強在第一步,其他完全不行
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2020-12-18T15:54
然後一群中學生的心理素質 向來都是贏過來長大的
你實在很難要求或預期成長到什麼程度
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2020-12-22T04:12
圍巾跟gay應該是差異不大
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2020-12-23T07:08
就是因爲有球商這因素,選秀才難又好玩啊
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2020-12-25T22:56
所以阿肥只有一個阿
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2020-12-26T17:25
球商好就是保底難養壞,有體能球商低的相對風險高。
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2020-12-29T23:06
球商好哪裡難養壞 身體跟不上的掰的更多
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2020-12-30T05:03
有身材體能但沒腦的,至少其中一部分像McGee之類的
修一修還堪用,有腦但身體完全跟不上的那種,你可能
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2020-12-31T17:07
連修都沒機會修,直接就消失了你也不會認識他。
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2021-01-02T21:20
球哥當初也是說球商很高阿 這真的很難去評量啦~
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2021-01-05T03:13
球商要看隊友,控衛不傳,隊友黑洞,沒機會表現就GG了
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2021-01-06T00:15
+%z%如果不痛現在也是明星球員了
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2021-01-10T08:26
球哥大學表現球商確實高,但進NBA沒當老大
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2021-01-14T11:36
這球探報告沒有寫到阿肥的低位坦克能力 這跟策應完
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2021-01-18T15:27
AW現在有成長到Rudy Gay這個模板嗎
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2021-01-20T19:06
當年圍巾吹的跟LBJ一樣 結果都只是經紀人的陰謀
William avatar
By William
at 2021-01-22T06:45
就是對肥宅的歧視 但他們忘記肥宅也是會減肥的
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2021-01-24T19:41
智商高球商不高的範例就是麥基
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2021-01-29T12:48
林書豪的傳球很容易發生失誤
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2021-02-03T05:47
只有球商 每年被淘汰掉的也有一大堆
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2021-02-04T23:30
AG當年的模板是Griffin吧
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2021-02-07T03:34
沒傳球的Griffin
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2021-02-09T14:21
圍巾吹這麼大 但那時候好像就被看破了99分
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2021-02-13T05:35
鄰哪有第一步 笑死 是加速之後的那一拍

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