Re: 經濟學人認為GOAT是......... - 網球 Tennis

By Oliver
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推文當中有人把現役球員「假設性」的放在其他年代來討論強度。
我們用下面例子來解釋一下這個議題的荒謬性,
各項體育競賽的技術是持續不斷的演進的,
我們常聽到一些年輕選手說他是看某某某打球長大的,
可以理解成"我學他打球",既然學他,改良後變得更強又有什麼好意外的?
費爸最經典的那些年,Running forehand應該是當時最令人驚豔的絕活,
但你看現在誰不會Running forehand? 大家都學會了嘛。
再來說納豆,當時打出繞柱球(或是說蛇球)時,也是令人驚嘆不已,
但是你看看現在費爸還有其他人也嘗試打出來了,
常常跑到右邊邊線會稍微由內往外打,讓上網的人難以攔截,最後卻可以繞回來。
雖然現在還是很少人像DJO一直劈腿救球,
但我相信如果這招好用又不太會受傷,
沒過幾年,年輕世代的也會是每個人都會劈腿。
這種例子太多了,雙反單腳跳平壓、正拍繞頭打法、第一時間擊球等等等。
好用大家就會用。
所以根據上一篇推文吵得很兇的,
DJO到底是要怎樣回去90年代打然後評估拿多少冠軍阿?
沒有前輩創新打法給後輩學,後輩一定不會打得像今天這麼精彩(高強度)啊。
要判斷這個球員的強度,對好方法就是比賽實績,
優良的戰績表示在同個年代,相同技術水準下,這位選手表現比別人突出,
然而如果宰制了網壇一段時間,則表示他領先時代,宰制越久則越偉大。
有人說費爸早年沒有強勁的對手(?)
阿Hewitt、Safin、Roddick、納班這些人不是人喔?
這些人都是高手啊!!! 只不過運氣不好拿了盤子就被說成雜魚嗎?
只是費爸領先了他那個時代的人,之後跟下個世代的人對上了,
然後要面對一些掌握了自己慣用技巧的新對手,
儘管36歲了還是一直學習和嘗試進步,這就是他偉大的地方。
ex 接發上網、胯下虐蛋等等
偉大的球員不一定是要打遍過去或未來每個時代的人,
有時只要在自己的年代裡創造出輝煌的成績並留點"什麼"給網球這項運動,
就足夠偉大了。
※ 引述《Gobucks (Gobucks)》之銘言:
: https://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2017/09/draws-tennis
: https://i.imgur.com/ooy0i4N.jpg

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