Phil Jackson在新書中比較喬神&Kobe - 籃球

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標題: [外絮] Phil Jackson在新書中比較喬神&Kobe
時間: Fri May 17 03:08:21 2013

Phil Jackson Compares Kobe Bryant And Michael Jordan In New Book

By Ramneet Singh| May 16, 2013|


Michael Jordan will go down in many peoples’ eyes as the greatest player to
ever play the game of basketball. Jordan amassed countless accolades over his
illustrious career and he forever changed the NBA with his on-court heroics
and off the court projects. However, over the years Kobe Bryant has given
Jordan a run for his money and has sparked a debate as to who is the better
player.

Micheal Jordan在許多球迷的心目中是最好的球員,Jordan在他卓越的籃球生涯中
獲得了無數的榮耀與稱讚,而且他場上場外的球星風采徹底顛覆了整個聯盟,然而,幾些
年後,Kobe Bryant逐漸追上了Jordan所賺的錢與表現,這使得我們要來討論誰是最好的
球員

Perhaps no one knows the two players better than the man who led them to all
of their championship rings, Phil Jackson. Jackson coached the two superstars
in their primes and he offered a comparison in his new book. Jackson will be
releasing ”Eleven Rings: The Soul of Success” very soon and Mike Bresnahan
had a chance to get a glimpse at the book.

或許沒人比Phil Jackson還瞭解這兩個男人,他曾帶領他們拿下冠軍,Jackson在這兩個
超級球星的巔峰時期執教過他們,而他將在他的新書來比較他們兩位
Phil Jackson的新書:"11個戒指:勝利之魂"

以下是書摘:

“Michael was more charismatic and gregarious than Kobe. He loved hanging out
with his teammates and security guards, playing cards, smoking cigars, and
joking around,”

喬丹比起Kobe更具有魅力及合群性,他喜歡跟他的隊友/保鑣一起廝混,一起打牌,
抽雪茄,還有一起開玩笑

“Kobe is different. He was reserved as a teenager, in part because he was
younger than the other players and hadn’t developed strong social skills in
college. When Kobe first joined the Lakers, he avoided fraternizing with his
teammates. But his inclination to keep to himself shifted as he grew older.
Increasingly, Kobe put more energy into getting to know the other players,
especially when the team was on the road.”

反觀Kobe,他是個冷淡的少年,這多少是因為他在隊伍中是最年輕的,以及他沒有在
大學中學到如何社交,當Kobe初入湖人隊,他避免與其他人友善,他傾向讓自己變得成熟,
漸漸的,在球隊正在起步時,Kobe放了更多精力去認識其他球員

“Jordan was also more naturally inclined to let the game come to him and not
overplay his hand, whereas Kobe tends to force the action, especially when
the game isn’t going his way. When his shot is off, Kobe will pound away
relentlessly until his luck turns. Michael, on the other hand, would shift
his attention to defense or passing or setting screens to help the team win
the game.”

Jordan比較會主宰比賽但不會過度自幹,反觀Kobe,他會選擇獨攬一切,尤其是比賽
不如他的意時
當Kobe開始投不進籃時,他會拼命投籃直到手感回來,Jordan在他狀況不好時,他會
把注意力放在防守或傳球或幫隊友掩護來贏得勝利


Jackson also said Jordan “was stronger, with bigger shoulders and a sturdier
frame,” which helped him pass defenses. As for Bryant, the Zen Master said
his finesse and flexibility allowed him to get through defenders.

Jackson說Jordan比Kobe還強壯,有更好的肩膀與體格,這讓他能越過所有防守者
反觀Kobe,禪師說Kobe是靠他的技巧&靈活性來擊敗防守者

From the excerpts released, it seems as though Jackson favors Jordan over
Bryant when choosing the better player. Although Bryant can very well be
considered the second greatest shooting guard of all-time, Jordan is truly in
a class of his own. Jackson may choose to pick Jordan over Bryant, but there
is no doubt Kobe’s success is something not many people will ever match.

我們可以知道,Jackson比較喜歡Jordan,雖說Kobe被認為是史上第二的SG,但喬丹
是在另外一個境界,Jackson也許會選擇Jordan為最好的球員,但不可否認的是,Kobe的成功
也達到了大部分人所無法到達的境界

In terms of number of championships and individual awards, Jordan has the
upper hand against Bryant; however, the Black Mamba has a chance to tie Jordan
’s six rings and surpass him on the all-time scoring list in the near
future.

就冠軍數與個人獎項,喬丹是比Kobe強多了,但黑曼巴還是有機會追齊Jordan的六座
冠軍,與超越喬丹的成就

source: http://ppt.cc/qiad

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Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2013-12-16T02:54
一直反觀反觀 老禪師準備被放火燒家啦
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2013-12-16T11:37
反觀LBJ
William avatar
By William
at 2013-12-16T20:20
今天po的11枚戒指嗆嗆的
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2013-12-17T05:03
感謝翻譯,剛看到第二段一開始應該是說
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2013-12-17T13:46
沒人比Phil還更了解Kobe和Jordan
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2013-12-17T22:29
完蛋了, 關鍵字:史上第二SG...有人要進攻啦XDDDD
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2013-12-18T07:13
蠻中肯的....
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2013-12-18T15:56
可惜最近空氣家族沒啥空? XD
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2013-12-19T00:39
Kobe的打法而言,一直都把自己至於團隊之上
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2013-12-19T09:22
以湖人歷年的華麗陣容,把Kobe換成其他一線球員
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2013-12-19T18:05
湖人的戰績,甚至冠軍數,應該是不會有多少差距y
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2013-12-20T02:48
神戶輸了
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2013-12-20T11:31
很多科迷會錯覺Kobe成就了湖人,其實是湖人成就了他
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2013-12-20T20:14
今天如果他不是在始終陣容華麗的湖人,成就可能有限
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2013-12-21T04:57
再怎麼科也不會認為Kobe成就了湖人..難不成你指迷妹?
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2013-12-21T13:40
[公告] 禪師 永久水桶
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2013-12-21T22:23
樓上XDDDD
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2013-12-22T07:06
推hssz 隨便一個頂級搖擺人跟歐肥配都馬可以三連霸
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2013-12-22T15:50
如果禪師PO在北韓版立刻被水桶
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2013-12-23T00:33
樓上是不是忘記哈達威?
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2013-12-23T09:16
還有LBJ...
NASH
以及老賽的一堆巨頭= =
成功的合體SG才兩個而已 KB跟Wade..
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2013-12-23T17:59
說這麼多 那幾年就是歐肥巔峰期阿
而且說時在我覺得wade那個有點黑黑的冠軍
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2013-12-24T02:42
歐肥很有運氣阿= =
跟一堆名人堂等級的同隊..
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2013-12-24T11:25
怎麼看某人都在幫AI護航 論歷史地位差得遠的勒
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2013-12-24T20:08
這也跟歐肥的打法有關
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2013-12-25T04:51
他的體重沒辦法像賈霸一樣吧
成也體重敗也體重
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2013-12-25T13:34
應該說即使歐肥走下坡 還是滿多隊想簽來賭一賭
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2013-12-25T22:17
推hssz 隨便一個頂級搖擺人跟歐肥配都馬可以三連霸
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2013-12-26T07:00
畢竟那種噸位真的很誘人阿 阿斯
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2013-12-26T15:43
巔峰期制宰力遠勝其它時代中鋒制宰力
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2013-12-27T00:27
Kobe換成Penny AI T-mac VC 甚至牛排屋都有機會
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2013-12-27T09:10
看他在湖人時期搭配高噸位根本就是再輾一堆防守者
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2013-12-27T17:53
純推hssz
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2013-12-28T02:36
Penny不就失敗了...講的好像有大歐就穩贏一樣...
David avatar
By David
at 2013-12-28T11:19
在湖人的歐肥能策應 魔術的歐肥還很嫩 被歐天王教育
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2013-12-28T20:02
況且隔年被72勝的喬神打掉Penny怎樣都是生不逢時...
三連霸湖人能爆三連霸公牛嗎?後場會先崩潰吧...
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2013-12-29T04:45
Kobe在小城市雖然不至於當JR 但頂多就是砍將一枚
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2013-12-29T13:28
MJ=超粗大腿 Shaq=超粗大腿 KB=扯隊友後腿
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2013-12-29T22:11
LBJ 嗚嗚 怎麼都沒有提到我..........
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2013-12-30T06:54
bigger shoulders那段是Jordan肩膀更寬,骨架更壯
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2013-12-30T15:37
讓Jordan在傳球防守上更有優勢,翻譯得有點偏差
Una avatar
By Una
at 2013-12-31T00:20
講錯了,pass defenses是突破防守的意思
Una avatar
By Una
at 2013-12-31T09:04
看到MJ比KB有更強壯的肩膀 就知道這書不可信
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2013-12-31T17:47
81bj4
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2014-01-01T02:30
誰跟喬神比 LBJ也不能
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2014-01-01T11:13
LBJ就算變成超級賽亞人 抱過大腿就是盧蛇
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2014-01-01T19:56
Phil又沒帶過LBJ當然不會提到啊
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2014-01-02T04:39
不愧是426 果然用426的思維
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2014-01-02T13:22
Jordan比Kobe還強壯,更具肩膀,更具有堅毅的精神
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2014-01-02T22:05
彌彌們準備進攻貴古賤今的禪師他家囉
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2014-01-03T06:48
摳b迷:禪師拎老木咖厚…
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2014-01-03T15:31
中肯禪師
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2014-01-04T00:14
翻得有點問題
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2014-01-04T08:57
完敗
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2014-01-04T17:41
中肯
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2014-01-05T02:24
完全一刀斃命 中肯~~~
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2014-01-05T11:07
MJ有更強壯的肩膀是在說MJ更能扛下重擔吧...
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2014-01-05T19:50
沒那麼複雜,就是肩膀寬打背框很有利
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2014-01-06T04:33
原來jordan才是強肩王
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2014-01-06T13:16
也是....畢竟這是翻過來的中文....
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2014-01-06T21:59
Penny+歐肥在2000-2002當然也有可能三連霸,你以為
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2014-01-07T06:42
kb+歐肥的三連霸是在老喬手下拿到的喲?頗ㄏ
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2014-01-07T15:25
要這樣比,那也可以說kb+大歐還打不過爵士兩老 lol
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2014-01-08T00:08
實際上就是kb運氣最好,在大歐獨強的時代跟他搭當到
Penny遇到一群中鋒都很強的年代還有個紅色光頭
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2014-01-08T08:51
Wade遇到下滑的大歐都可以拿個冠軍,LBJ和老賽遇到的
已經是養老的大歐了 =.=
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2014-01-08T17:34
顛峰的大歐根接近退休那幾年實力差7成吧
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2014-01-09T02:18
中肯的禪師 不過迷迷不會相信的
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2014-01-09T11:01
6>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>5 BJ4
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2014-01-09T19:44
酸他沒有唸大學,跟kg一樣
Una avatar
By Una
at 2014-01-10T04:27
RRRRRRRRRRRR完全正確阿~
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2014-01-10T13:10
比錢賺的多少怪怪的 兩個人的時間點市場規模差很大
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2014-01-10T21:53
反觀魂
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2014-01-11T06:36
老喬有合群性= =....去問問澳洲中鋒吧...什麼回憶錄
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2014-01-11T15:19
自傳果然是最不能相信的事,當然比賽的數據不會假
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2014-01-12T00:02
"比較",中文有那麼難懂嗎?
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2014-01-12T08:45
eemail 喬丹認識你? Kobe認識你? 你比禪師還熟 厲害!
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2014-01-12T17:28
禪師有比台灣鍵盤專家更懂MJ跟Kobe嗎? 寫那什麼東西
George avatar
By George
at 2014-01-13T02:11
很中肯
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2014-01-13T10:55
禪師:是否接受跨海隔空水桶 Y/N
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2014-01-13T19:38
禪師會不會被LaoDa告 他連老木都敢告上法院耶
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2014-01-14T04:21
5 >>>>>> 11 欸?
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2014-01-14T13:04
喬神跟柯比沒什麼好比的阿 哈
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2014-01-14T21:47
喬神大勝是鐵錚錚的事實
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2014-01-15T06:30
老大雖然沒學到社交卻很會射交
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2014-01-15T15:13
KOBE的成就無庸置疑了 但是跟老喬比...只能說
跟神比還是太沉重 = =
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2014-01-15T23:56
ZZ 一堆鍵盤神算, 今年季後湖人就被大比分橫掃
隨便找個搖擺人都跟KOBE差不多那給他3000W幹嘛?
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2014-01-16T08:39
人家球團都是盤子,都沒有鄉民聰明
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2014-01-16T17:22
給他3000萬,是市場價值 如果球團沒算 這是才是白癡
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2014-01-17T02:05
賣門票,賣球衣,賣周邊商品 假如球團放棄這一塊
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2014-01-17T10:48
那才像是 "盤子" 懂了嗎
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2014-01-17T19:32
掉出一堆鍵盤專家
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2014-01-18T04:15
MJ!
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2014-01-18T12:58
某人不是很愛去北韓裝熟 快去po一篇啊
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2014-01-18T21:41
這兩個都是SG 都給禪師帶過 才會比較 干LBJ啥事XD
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2014-01-19T06:24
搭別人打不贏叫生不逢時,搭Kobe贏叫做理所當然
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2014-01-19T15:07
酸酸還真是雙重標準
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2014-01-19T23:50
stury frame是翻成堅毅的精神?! 怪怪的.....
從前後文推敲 那邊應該只是講Jordan更強壯 有更好的
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2014-01-20T08:33
肩膀與體形 讓他能超越防守者 相對來說Kobe比較依賴
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2014-01-20T17:16
技巧與靈活來超越防守者
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2014-01-21T01:59
這篇轉去北韓版會有什麼反應?
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2014-01-21T10:42
肩膀那段翻得不大對吧
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2014-01-21T19:25
一堆人都比禪師更懂MJ跟kobe....好厲害...
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2014-01-22T04:09
讚啦中肯 迷迷崩潰
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2014-01-22T12:52
酸酸好像很愛幻想迷迷認為kobe超越喬丹??
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2014-01-22T21:35
禪師比較喜歡MJ 當然有偏見。
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2014-01-23T06:18
到底為什麼啊@@
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2014-01-23T15:01
penny怎麼被扯後腿沒想到還有人絲毫不懂啊~
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2014-01-23T23:44
迷迷不可能因為這篇崩潰啦呵呵 除非反串
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2014-01-24T08:27
沒記錯的話 周邊商品收益是聯盟共享
William avatar
By William
at 2014-01-24T17:10
歐肥生涯的紀錄的確換哪個搖擺人沒差只差在他的狀態
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2014-01-25T01:53
跟Penny時打進Final,巔峰時3FMVP,下滑時都還能奪冠
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2014-01-25T10:36
到太陽騎士超賽時早就退出一線了,影響力當然有限
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2014-01-25T19:19
兩人位置完全相同 Kobe怎麼比都輸 只有81分能講了
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2014-01-26T04:02
位置身高一樣,成就也算同位置勉強最接近的,難免被比
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2014-01-26T12:46
kobe是史上最幸運的SG
可以跟歐肥巔峰期在一起隨便一支好的SG都能奪冠
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2014-01-26T21:29
PANNY+歐肥為什麼不能奪冠? 因為遇到MJ啊
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2014-01-27T06:12
LBJ nash 的歐肥已經是半退休了也能講也夠沒腦了
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2014-01-27T14:55
輸給神有什麼好怨的
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2014-01-27T23:38
球場75英里內的商品收入是特許, 以外的才是共享
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2014-01-28T08:21
他沒有在大學中學到如何射交 但在場外學到很多
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2014-01-28T17:04
當年Kobe正囂張的時期 迷迷就是幻想超越Jordan阿
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2014-01-29T01:47
別現在發現比不過了就不承認
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2014-01-29T10:30
感謝IBIZA大補充
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2014-01-29T19:13
BLABLA舉一堆爛例子 除了Penny外 其他人配到的都是
身手開始退化的老歐 這也好意思拿出來舉
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2014-01-30T03:56
Penny配到的是分球能力還沒開竅的Shaq
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2014-01-30T12:39
熱火之後的大歐 只剩不到五成功力吧 拿來跟巔峰比...
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2014-01-30T21:23
81>>>69 24>>>23
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2014-01-31T06:06
拜託酸酸別再把部分迷迷的幻想當作全體迷迷了啦@@
George avatar
By George
at 2014-01-31T14:49
在大學沒學到社交? 騙笑耶
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2014-01-31T23:32
科迷人多 正所謂樹大有枯枝.....
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2014-02-01T08:15
是沒能上大學學會社交 眼睛是擺設啊
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2014-02-01T16:58
不過從數據來看 kobe真的還差MJ不只一截
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2014-02-02T01:41
打錯 在大學能學到社交 與其說社交倒不如說團隊合作
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2014-02-02T10:24
會說KB>MJ的就是酸迷,科迷從來不覺得有這麼回事
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2014-02-02T19:07
不是吧 從以前看到現在真的有科迷以為KB>MJ啊
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2014-02-03T03:50
更據肩膀是什麼鬼啦XD
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2014-02-03T12:33
沒有說全部就是了
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2014-02-03T21:16
中肯
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2014-02-04T06:00
聽Kart胡扯,大歐獨強?你把當時馬刺雙塔當死人喔
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2014-02-04T14:43
那幾年湖人過馬刺哪次Kobe沒有出來幫湖人過關..
講到好像隨便換個人都能把當時馬刺後場殺暴咧.
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2014-02-04T23:26
而且別忘記那時的拓荒者跟國王的禁區也不差..
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By Suhail Hany
at 2014-02-05T08:09
你確定隨便誰來都能幫O'neal幹掉那些球隊嗎
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2014-02-05T16:52
科科 又把科仙拿出來比 顛峰大腿歐肥3冠加索2冠 bj4
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2014-02-06T01:35
大歐是獨強沒錯啊 但沒說一個人就能拿冠軍吧 總是
要有隊友
雙塔任一個跟大歐比 應該都還是大歐略勝一籌 但是
大歐一個人打不贏雙塔
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2014-02-06T10:18
Westzone別丟人現眼了,大家說的都是換一個頂級的sg
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2014-02-06T19:01
還是你的意思是你家老大可以隨便換任一人都可替代?
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2014-02-07T03:44
大歐在99之後,四大中鋒漸漸老去本來中鋒位就是他獨霸
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2014-02-07T12:27
他+一個頂級SG的陣容奪三冠算是少了,我說實話說難聽
點,要不是kb連續兩年投那幾個麵包,大歐搞不好多一兩
冠咧~ (既然你要鬼扯幾場貢獻)
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2014-02-07T21:10
如果當初在湖人的是T-MAC跟大歐配 搞不好不只三連霸
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2014-02-08T05:53
KOBE會跟大歐搶球權 T-MAC可沒那麼嚴重的老大病
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2014-02-08T14:37
Mike Brown:我也要出新書 專門比較LBJ與Kobe
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2014-02-08T23:20
其實魔術時的大歐 就已經打出很恐怖的數據了 但那時
東區還有神在 神不在時殺入決賽 又遇到另一隻同樣堪
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2014-02-09T08:03
2005大歐也沒必要出走 說不定5連霸都有可能
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2014-02-09T16:46
純噓廢物phil
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2014-02-10T01:29
稱歷史頂尖的中鋒大歐....
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2014-02-10T10:12
當年湖人三連霸止步 KOBE可是佔很大的因素啊!!
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2014-02-10T18:55
歐肥加索=顛峰大腿 科仙不扯後腿 歐肥不會只有三連霸
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2014-02-11T03:38
KOBE始終把自身利益放在團隊之上 太個人主義
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2014-02-11T12:21
可能就是因為孤僻的原因 才會犯下過錯....疑
John avatar
By John
at 2014-02-11T21:04
反觀
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2014-02-12T05:47
講那麼直白, 這不是我認識的禪師
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2014-02-12T14:30
簡單說 就是喬丹狂電科比
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2014-02-12T23:14
柯比完敗阿 比啥 佐敦讓了兩年還是樂勝
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2014-02-13T07:57
魔術時期的大歐還會被質疑主宰力不如penny 湖人三連
霸時期則是天下第一人 到底是penny抱大腿還是kobe?
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2014-02-13T16:40
事實就是這樣 佐敦>>>>>>狗鼻
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2014-02-14T01:23
a run for his money這句跟"錢"本身是沒有關係的
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2014-02-14T10:06
禪師沒帶過lbj啊 提lbj幹嘛XDDD 好蠢
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2014-02-14T18:49
kobe是史上最幸運的SG 沒有之一 +1
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2014-02-15T03:32
kobe是史上最幸運的SG 沒有之一 +1 有大歐和嘎獸和DH
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2014-02-15T12:15
當隊友真的太爽了
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2014-02-15T20:58
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2014-02-16T05:41
一個是神...一個是自以為是神的凡人...BJ4
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2014-02-16T14:24
禪師只是想賣書而已 這兩人根本沒得比
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2014-02-16T23:07
事實上KOBE是真正follow jordan的腳步的人
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2014-02-17T07:51
Jodrdan接班人無誤
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2014-02-17T16:34
I師引戰 永久水桶
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2014-02-18T01:17
禪師想賣書吧 這兩個都很偉大 但差距很明顯阿
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2014-02-18T10:00
不是我翻譯問題 肩膀本來就是指承擔問題的能力= =
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By Suhail Hany
at 2014-02-18T18:43
我覺得你引申過頭了,就是字面上的意思而以
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2014-02-19T03:26
翻譯有問題,很多鄉民都解釋過了
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2014-02-19T12:09
純推hssz 中肯
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2014-02-19T20:52
酸民是被kobe倒會喔... 仇恨很大XD
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2014-02-20T05:35
那我修改一下那一段好了
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2014-02-20T14:18
湖人三連霸的第一年第二輪正好遇到kidd受傷只剩Penny
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2014-02-20T23:01
的太陽,penny的個人數據撇開G5早早收工,G1-G4完勝kb
所以到底是誰抱大腿?還要神話kb嗎?他就運氣最好阿= =
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2014-02-21T07:44
wade 有 LBJ BOSH RAY 大歐 晨星 陪伴 好像不幸運吼
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2014-02-21T16:28
開始了,講不過就乾坤大挪移轉到wade了!
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2014-02-22T01:11
wade也沒有暴發戶老闆隨時都可以撒大錢
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2014-02-22T09:54
LBJ也挺幸運的 可以跟WADE BOSH 雷槍同隊
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2014-02-22T18:37
真的有人認為湖人三連霸是好運?O.O
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2014-02-23T03:20
本人PJ就是講MJ的體能較好~~
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2014-02-23T12:03
沒輟
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2014-02-23T20:46
怎麼能拿科比跟喬單比
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2014-02-24T05:29
拿冠軍不想要好運的話,就自己把隊友帶起來啊...
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2014-02-24T14:12
禪師要多請保全 不然某迷會去放火
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2014-02-24T22:55
史上最獨SG
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2014-02-25T07:38
冠軍但不是MVP怎麼能相比
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2014-02-25T16:21
Westzone你不知道馬刺TD開刀那年就是被penny完爆嗎?
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2014-02-26T01:05
只是當年可不是趴車搭鬼禿,而是A.J和S.Elliott
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2014-02-26T09:48
LBJ能跟眾星合體是他努力來的 他證明自己容的下巨星
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2014-02-26T18:31
鍵盤教練最厲害,根本是kobe在扯大家後腿,球團大概是
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2014-02-27T03:14
白癡,還是花那麼多錢留KOBE不去找其他明星後衛
真應該找鄉民去當GM兼教練
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2014-02-27T11:57
這麼多人看著歐肥就說隨便誰配他都冠軍,他在湖人時可
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2014-02-27T20:40
是受傷等到開季再開刀,任由身體暴肥,也受腳趾傷勢所
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2014-02-28T05:23
苦的,到熱火後想讓KOBE好看,想讓KOBE知道他跟別人也
能拿冠軍才又努力減肥的,況且你看看熱火奪冠那年的
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2014-02-28T14:06
陣容有多豪華,不要說得好像有歐肥或喬丹一個人就拿冠
軍一樣,籃球不是一個人打的
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2014-02-28T22:49
沒有KOBE幫忙,當年馬刺國王有那麼好打嗎

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By Zanna
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at 2013-12-15T18:09
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