NBA 12星座籃球隊修正後最後決定板 - NBA
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作者: WYJ (WEZARD,once and ever) 看板: NBA
標題: [討論] NBA12星座籃球隊
時間: Thu Feb 14 16:00:45 2008
非常無聊做了這個......
球員資料以本季有登錄的為準
先發是考慮數據和球員特性以後排的
替補各位置平均選7人
當然大家也可以照自己的想法自己換球員
結論是金牛、雙子、處女、天秤、天蠍座實在強!
牡羊、巨蟹、水瓶是二級強隊
獅子和摩羯座相當威但不是一支強隊......因為沒有中鋒.....
比方後者James、Wade、Arenas同時擺上場也不一定比較好
看似有3個得分點 但應該就會同時壓縮他們的出手次數和數據
==============================================================================
牡羊:(替補實力也相當平均)
PG:Jason Kidd
SG:Baron Davis
SF:Steven Jackson
PF:Chris Bosh
C :Marcus Camby
替補:
T.J. Ford(G)、Ben Gordon(G)、Boris Diaw(G-F-C)、Luol Deng(F)、Danny Granger(F)
Brad Miller(F-C)、Andris Biedrins(C)
邊緣名單:
DeShawn Stevenson(G)、Quentin Richardson(G-F)、Luke Walton(F)、Theo Ratliff(C)
Fabricio Oberto(C)
==============================================================================
金牛:(Bibby是替補PG2號,Parker是雙能G,缺合格替補小前鋒是此陣容唯一弱點)
PG:Chris Paul
SG:Josh Howard
SF:Shawn Marion
PF:Kevin Garnett
C :Tim Duncan
替補:
Tony Parker(G)、Mike Bibby(G)、Eddie House(G)、Luis Scola(F)、David Lee(F)、
Samuel Dalembert(C)、Chris Kaman(C)
邊緣名單:
Donyell Marshall(G-F)、Reggie Evans(F)、Brain Skinner(F)、Troy Murphy(C)
==============================================================================
雙子:(若把T-Mac擺場上會和A.I.及Carmelo分散持球,不利;內線是這隊最大弱點)
PG:Allen Iverson
SG:Richard Jefferson
SF:Carmelo Anthony
PF:Dirk Nowitzki
C :Zydrunas Ilgauskas
替補:
Earl Watson(G)、Tracy McGrady(G)、Peja Stojakovic(G-F)、Bruce Bowen(G-F)、
Antawn Jamison(F)、Mehmet Okur(F-C)、Al Horford(F)
邊緣名單:
Juan Carlos Navarro(G)、Earl Boykins(G)、Anthony Carter(G)、Jose Childress(G-F)
Nate Robinson(G)、Anthony Parker(G-F)、Udonis Haslem(F)、Jamario Moon(F)、
Chuck Hayes(F)、Matt Harpring(F)
==============================================================================
巨蟹:(Zac在Knicks似乎已經名聲臭掉?不過換個隊友應該會好很多)
PG:Deron Williams
SG:Ray Allen
SF:Gerald Wallace
PF:Zach Randolph
C :Pau Gasol
替補:
Raymond Felton(G)、Beno Udrih(G)、Brandon Roy(G)、Joe Johnson(G-F)、
Bostjan Nachbar(F)、LaMarcus Aldridge(F-C)、Erick Dampier(C)
邊緣名單:
Eduardo Najera(F)、Chris Mihm(C)、Dikembe Mutombo(C)
==============================================================================
獅子:(Joe Smith其實可以客串中鋒,但數據和Lewis差不多,不如純打速度)
PG:Rafer Alston
G :Kobe Bryant
G :Manu Ginobili
F :Rudy Gay
F :Rashard Lewis
替補:
Willie Green(G)、Derek Fisher(G)、Carlos Arroyo(G)、Antoine Walker(F)、
Charlie Villanueva(F)、Joe Smith(F-C)
邊緣名單:
無
==============================================================================
處女:(兵多將廣,先發可能沒金牛恐怖,板凳深度強得多)
PG:Jason Terry
SG:Michael Redd
SF:Rasheed Wallace
PF:Ben Wallace
C :姚明
替補:
Damon Stoudmire(G)、Raja Bell(G)、Mike Dunleavy(G-F)、David West(F)、
Chris Wilcox(F)、Shane Battier(F)、Antonio McDyess(F-C)
邊緣名單:
Ricky Davis(G)、Cuttino Mobley(G)、J.R. Smith(G)、Shaun Livingston(G)、
Devean George(F)、Robert Horry(F)、Travis Outlaw(F)、Sean Williams(F-C)、
Nen'e(F-C)
==============================================================================
天秤:(每個位置都有兩套人選,原版本SG和SF、PF和C互調,比較數據後讓Calderon替補)
PG:Chauncey Billups
SG:Kevin Durant
SF:Paul Pierce
PF:Jermaine O'Neal
C :Tyson Chandler
替補:
Jose Calderon(G)、Eddie Jones(G-F)、Bonzi Wells(G-F)、Grant Hill(F)、
Drew Gooden(F)、Emeka Okafor(F-C)、Kurt Thomas(F-C)
邊緣名單:
Anderson Varejao(F)、James Jones(G-F)
==============================================================================
天蠍:(同樣兵多將廣,內線雖在高度上沒有統治力但也相當不錯)
PG:Sam Cassell
SG:Ron Artest
SF:Lamar Odom
PF:Carlos Boozer
C :Amare Stoudemire
替補:
Monta Ellis(G)、Jason Williams(G)、Corey Maggette(G-F)、Jerry Stackhouse(G-F)、
Andrea Bargnani(F-C)、易建聯(F-C)、Andrew Bynum(C)
邊緣名單:
Brevin Knight(G)、Louis Williams(G)、Marcus Banks(G)、Aleksandar Pavlovic(G-F)
Vladimir Radmanovic(F)、Nick Collinson(F-C)、Josh Boone(F-C)
==============================================================================
射手:(當今第一魔獸打大前鋒,和Bogut中鋒形成雙塔,但缺好PG,身體對抗性也稍弱)
PG:Mo Williams
SG:Leandro Barbosa
SF:Josh Smith
PF:Dwight Howard
C :Andrew Bogut
替補:
Jordan Farmar(G)、John Salmons(G)、Luther Head(G-F)、Martell Webster(F)、
Andres Nocioni(F)、Brendan Haywood(C)、Eddy Curry(C)
邊緣名單:
Kelenna Azubuike(G-F)、Malik Rose(F)、Dorell Wright(F)、Shareef Abdur-Rahim(F)
==============================================================================
摩羯:(最吃重的角色是Hinrich,他要判斷把球給誰,先發平均籃板只有31-33個)
PG:Kirk Hinrich
G :Dwyane Wade
G :Gilbert Arenas
F :LeBron James
F :Al Jefferson
替補:
Jason Richardson(G)、Brent Barry(G)、Francisco Garcia(G-F)、Linas Kleiza(G-F)、
Kenyon Martin(F)、Jeff Foster(C)
邊緣名單:
無
==============================================================================
水瓶:(有可以讓所有人升級的Nash,1-3號位置很齊但無內線,追求究極小球打法)
PG:Steve Nash
G :Richard Hamilton
G :Vince Carter
F :Andre Iguodala
F :Andrei Kirilenko
替補:
Jameer Nelson(G)、Kevin Martin(G)、Mike Miller(G)、Larry Hughes(G)、
AL Harrington(F-C)、Paul Millsap(F-C)、DeSagana Diop(C)
邊緣名單:
Antoine Wright(G-F)、Jason Kapono(F)、Jason Maxiell(F)
==============================================================================
雙魚:(本季傷病問題嚴重,爭議人物比例也最高,人數最多相信取捨標準會很不同)
PG:Andre Miller
F :Caron Butler
F :Tayshaun Prince
F :Hedo Turkoglu
C :Shaquille O'Neal
替補:
Jamaal Tinsley(G)、Devin Harris(G)、Jamal Crawford(G)、Michael Finley(G-F)、
Tim Thomas(F)、Chris Webber(F-C)、Joakim Noah(F)
邊緣名單:
Steve Blake(G)、Rajon Rondo(G)、Steve Francis(G)、Stephon Marbury(G)、
Daniel Gibson(G)、Antonio Daniels(G)、Babby Jackson(G)、Ronnie Brewer(G-F)、
Wally Szczerbiak(F)、Kyle Korver(F)、Matt Barnes(F)、Elton Brand(F)
==============================================================================
特別說明一下雙子、摩羯、雙魚
雙子不放T-Mac是因為特點和A.I.+Carmelo這組合重疊
他本季的狀況和比較數據後又不盡理想(說是不盡理想得分也有22+ PG)
原來放Bruce Bowen是在下有欠考慮
這可能是因為長年太陽迷 在這兩季對Bowen的防守和定點三分印象深刻
(西區有很多強隊,但相信多數太陽迷會特別關注馬刺、小牛、湖人)
重編參考板友建議換上Richard Jefferson
摩羯原先的陣容是沒有Al Jefferson有Kenyon Martin
後來把Arenas拉掉保留K-Mar再加Jeff Foster(Pacers的中鋒)
最後決定還是讓James、Wade、Arenas三箭齊發
另外也考慮過如下陣容:
G :LeBron James
G :Dwyane Wade
G :Gilbert Arenas
F :Kenyon Martin
F-C:Al Jefferson
如上陣容內線比較齊
但其實仍是無中鋒狀態
所以摩羯這部份可能須要有板友補齊
雙魚是人數最多最難取捨的
但其實內線除了Shaquille O'Neal沒什麼人
Elton Brand本季因傷雖有登錄但沒上過場改列邊緣名單
棄用Steve Francis和Stephon Marbury可能會爭議很多
但有Andre Miller、Jamaal Tinsley、Devin Harris、Jamal Crawford
是否還需要兩個相對來說比較獨的後衛呢?
我個人是相當不喜歡PG只顧得分或亂切 比較偏好無私和助攻為主的傳統型PG
Rondo並不會這樣...但當一支球隊有了GAP這樣的連線...PG功力是看不太出來的
而且也有A.Miller和Tinsley了(其實Tinsley先發PG在我看來和A.Miller是同等的)
選Finley和Webber是因為經驗和功能性
Tim Thomas則是相當有特點
Noah是為了增強內線高度和對抗性
另,這在太陽板可能也不是什麼秘密
我非常不喜歡Stephon Marbury這樣的球員(指球風,場外我倒沒什麼意見)
所以在雙魚一長串後衛邊緣名單裡
對我來說他是排在Blake、Francis、Rondo、Antoine Daniels之後的
--
作者: WYJ (WEZARD,once and ever) 看板: NBA
標題: [討論] NBA12星座籃球隊
時間: Thu Feb 14 16:00:45 2008
非常無聊做了這個......
球員資料以本季有登錄的為準
先發是考慮數據和球員特性以後排的
替補各位置平均選7人
當然大家也可以照自己的想法自己換球員
結論是金牛、雙子、處女、天秤、天蠍座實在強!
牡羊、巨蟹、水瓶是二級強隊
獅子和摩羯座相當威但不是一支強隊......因為沒有中鋒.....
比方後者James、Wade、Arenas同時擺上場也不一定比較好
看似有3個得分點 但應該就會同時壓縮他們的出手次數和數據
==============================================================================
牡羊:(替補實力也相當平均)
PG:Jason Kidd
SG:Baron Davis
SF:Steven Jackson
PF:Chris Bosh
C :Marcus Camby
替補:
T.J. Ford(G)、Ben Gordon(G)、Boris Diaw(G-F-C)、Luol Deng(F)、Danny Granger(F)
Brad Miller(F-C)、Andris Biedrins(C)
邊緣名單:
DeShawn Stevenson(G)、Quentin Richardson(G-F)、Luke Walton(F)、Theo Ratliff(C)
Fabricio Oberto(C)
==============================================================================
金牛:(Bibby是替補PG2號,Parker是雙能G,缺合格替補小前鋒是此陣容唯一弱點)
PG:Chris Paul
SG:Josh Howard
SF:Shawn Marion
PF:Kevin Garnett
C :Tim Duncan
替補:
Tony Parker(G)、Mike Bibby(G)、Eddie House(G)、Luis Scola(F)、David Lee(F)、
Samuel Dalembert(C)、Chris Kaman(C)
邊緣名單:
Donyell Marshall(G-F)、Reggie Evans(F)、Brain Skinner(F)、Troy Murphy(C)
==============================================================================
雙子:(若把T-Mac擺場上會和A.I.及Carmelo分散持球,不利;內線是這隊最大弱點)
PG:Allen Iverson
SG:Richard Jefferson
SF:Carmelo Anthony
PF:Dirk Nowitzki
C :Zydrunas Ilgauskas
替補:
Earl Watson(G)、Tracy McGrady(G)、Peja Stojakovic(G-F)、Bruce Bowen(G-F)、
Antawn Jamison(F)、Mehmet Okur(F-C)、Al Horford(F)
邊緣名單:
Juan Carlos Navarro(G)、Earl Boykins(G)、Anthony Carter(G)、Jose Childress(G-F)
Nate Robinson(G)、Anthony Parker(G-F)、Udonis Haslem(F)、Jamario Moon(F)、
Chuck Hayes(F)、Matt Harpring(F)
==============================================================================
巨蟹:(Zac在Knicks似乎已經名聲臭掉?不過換個隊友應該會好很多)
PG:Deron Williams
SG:Ray Allen
SF:Gerald Wallace
PF:Zach Randolph
C :Pau Gasol
替補:
Raymond Felton(G)、Beno Udrih(G)、Brandon Roy(G)、Joe Johnson(G-F)、
Bostjan Nachbar(F)、LaMarcus Aldridge(F-C)、Erick Dampier(C)
邊緣名單:
Eduardo Najera(F)、Chris Mihm(C)、Dikembe Mutombo(C)
==============================================================================
獅子:(Joe Smith其實可以客串中鋒,但數據和Lewis差不多,不如純打速度)
PG:Rafer Alston
G :Kobe Bryant
G :Manu Ginobili
F :Rudy Gay
F :Rashard Lewis
替補:
Willie Green(G)、Derek Fisher(G)、Carlos Arroyo(G)、Antoine Walker(F)、
Charlie Villanueva(F)、Joe Smith(F-C)
邊緣名單:
無
==============================================================================
處女:(兵多將廣,先發可能沒金牛恐怖,板凳深度強得多)
PG:Jason Terry
SG:Michael Redd
SF:Rasheed Wallace
PF:Ben Wallace
C :姚明
替補:
Damon Stoudmire(G)、Raja Bell(G)、Mike Dunleavy(G-F)、David West(F)、
Chris Wilcox(F)、Shane Battier(F)、Antonio McDyess(F-C)
邊緣名單:
Ricky Davis(G)、Cuttino Mobley(G)、J.R. Smith(G)、Shaun Livingston(G)、
Devean George(F)、Robert Horry(F)、Travis Outlaw(F)、Sean Williams(F-C)、
Nen'e(F-C)
==============================================================================
天秤:(每個位置都有兩套人選,原版本SG和SF、PF和C互調,比較數據後讓Calderon替補)
PG:Chauncey Billups
SG:Kevin Durant
SF:Paul Pierce
PF:Jermaine O'Neal
C :Tyson Chandler
替補:
Jose Calderon(G)、Eddie Jones(G-F)、Bonzi Wells(G-F)、Grant Hill(F)、
Drew Gooden(F)、Emeka Okafor(F-C)、Kurt Thomas(F-C)
邊緣名單:
Anderson Varejao(F)、James Jones(G-F)
==============================================================================
天蠍:(同樣兵多將廣,內線雖在高度上沒有統治力但也相當不錯)
PG:Sam Cassell
SG:Ron Artest
SF:Lamar Odom
PF:Carlos Boozer
C :Amare Stoudemire
替補:
Monta Ellis(G)、Jason Williams(G)、Corey Maggette(G-F)、Jerry Stackhouse(G-F)、
Andrea Bargnani(F-C)、易建聯(F-C)、Andrew Bynum(C)
邊緣名單:
Brevin Knight(G)、Louis Williams(G)、Marcus Banks(G)、Aleksandar Pavlovic(G-F)
Vladimir Radmanovic(F)、Nick Collinson(F-C)、Josh Boone(F-C)
==============================================================================
射手:(當今第一魔獸打大前鋒,和Bogut中鋒形成雙塔,但缺好PG,身體對抗性也稍弱)
PG:Mo Williams
SG:Leandro Barbosa
SF:Josh Smith
PF:Dwight Howard
C :Andrew Bogut
替補:
Jordan Farmar(G)、John Salmons(G)、Luther Head(G-F)、Martell Webster(F)、
Andres Nocioni(F)、Brendan Haywood(C)、Eddy Curry(C)
邊緣名單:
Kelenna Azubuike(G-F)、Malik Rose(F)、Dorell Wright(F)、Shareef Abdur-Rahim(F)
==============================================================================
摩羯:(最吃重的角色是Hinrich,他要判斷把球給誰,先發平均籃板只有31-33個)
PG:Kirk Hinrich
G :Dwyane Wade
G :Gilbert Arenas
F :LeBron James
F :Al Jefferson
替補:
Jason Richardson(G)、Brent Barry(G)、Francisco Garcia(G-F)、Linas Kleiza(G-F)、
Kenyon Martin(F)、Jeff Foster(C)
邊緣名單:
無
==============================================================================
水瓶:(有可以讓所有人升級的Nash,1-3號位置很齊但無內線,追求究極小球打法)
PG:Steve Nash
G :Richard Hamilton
G :Vince Carter
F :Andre Iguodala
F :Andrei Kirilenko
替補:
Jameer Nelson(G)、Kevin Martin(G)、Mike Miller(G)、Larry Hughes(G)、
AL Harrington(F-C)、Paul Millsap(F-C)、DeSagana Diop(C)
邊緣名單:
Antoine Wright(G-F)、Jason Kapono(F)、Jason Maxiell(F)
==============================================================================
雙魚:(本季傷病問題嚴重,爭議人物比例也最高,人數最多相信取捨標準會很不同)
PG:Andre Miller
F :Caron Butler
F :Tayshaun Prince
F :Hedo Turkoglu
C :Shaquille O'Neal
替補:
Jamaal Tinsley(G)、Devin Harris(G)、Jamal Crawford(G)、Michael Finley(G-F)、
Tim Thomas(F)、Chris Webber(F-C)、Joakim Noah(F)
邊緣名單:
Steve Blake(G)、Rajon Rondo(G)、Steve Francis(G)、Stephon Marbury(G)、
Daniel Gibson(G)、Antonio Daniels(G)、Babby Jackson(G)、Ronnie Brewer(G-F)、
Wally Szczerbiak(F)、Kyle Korver(F)、Matt Barnes(F)、Elton Brand(F)
==============================================================================
特別說明一下雙子、摩羯、雙魚
雙子不放T-Mac是因為特點和A.I.+Carmelo這組合重疊
他本季的狀況和比較數據後又不盡理想(說是不盡理想得分也有22+ PG)
原來放Bruce Bowen是在下有欠考慮
這可能是因為長年太陽迷 在這兩季對Bowen的防守和定點三分印象深刻
(西區有很多強隊,但相信多數太陽迷會特別關注馬刺、小牛、湖人)
重編參考板友建議換上Richard Jefferson
摩羯原先的陣容是沒有Al Jefferson有Kenyon Martin
後來把Arenas拉掉保留K-Mar再加Jeff Foster(Pacers的中鋒)
最後決定還是讓James、Wade、Arenas三箭齊發
另外也考慮過如下陣容:
G :LeBron James
G :Dwyane Wade
G :Gilbert Arenas
F :Kenyon Martin
F-C:Al Jefferson
如上陣容內線比較齊
但其實仍是無中鋒狀態
所以摩羯這部份可能須要有板友補齊
雙魚是人數最多最難取捨的
但其實內線除了Shaquille O'Neal沒什麼人
Elton Brand本季因傷雖有登錄但沒上過場改列邊緣名單
棄用Steve Francis和Stephon Marbury可能會爭議很多
但有Andre Miller、Jamaal Tinsley、Devin Harris、Jamal Crawford
是否還需要兩個相對來說比較獨的後衛呢?
我個人是相當不喜歡PG只顧得分或亂切 比較偏好無私和助攻為主的傳統型PG
Rondo並不會這樣...但當一支球隊有了GAP這樣的連線...PG功力是看不太出來的
而且也有A.Miller和Tinsley了(其實Tinsley先發PG在我看來和A.Miller是同等的)
選Finley和Webber是因為經驗和功能性
Tim Thomas則是相當有特點
Noah是為了增強內線高度和對抗性
另,這在太陽板可能也不是什麼秘密
我非常不喜歡Stephon Marbury這樣的球員(指球風,場外我倒沒什麼意見)
所以在雙魚一長串後衛邊緣名單裡
對我來說他是排在Blake、Francis、Rondo、Antoine Daniels之後的
--
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