Lester的消息和一些想法 - 美國職棒

By Elizabeth
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先講結論,我對於我們的FO是很有信心的,
做決定時很果斷,目標明確,使用的方法也很一致。
老實講,紅襪本來就應該是一個retool中的球隊,
只是去年莫名其妙地拿了一個冠軍之後,讓球隊走向一時有點模糊不清,
現在只是回歸基本盤而已。
在2012崩盤的球季後,大家似乎都有共識會有三年左右的黑暗期,
長約大咖全部都被交易走,球隊除了小派沒有Core,完全不像是個爭冠球隊,
FO要retool的決心也很明顯,短約老將填空位,
以便和預計2015的一批農場prospects銜接,
而2013季前的所有動作都不是為了要爭冠,只是為了填空,
所以有一年約的豬、一年約的Napoli、三年約的夏威夷人、兩年約的Gomes和一些路人,
roster裡面充滿了新人,中川、鷹俠、Doubront、Lava、Workman,
大部分也都是為了填空而已,除了中川和鷹俠外大部分都不在未來規劃中。
一般來說,冠軍球隊都有所謂的Core,這通常指可以持續有穩定輸出的明星球員,
也因此可以保證球隊成績有一定水準,不容易波動
(當然也是有Core全部一起爛掉的例子...像是2012年的紅襪)。
去年的紅襪完全是個例外,是一連串的好運相加,才有最後的冠軍,
Nava大爆發,發球機回神,老爹和夏威夷人回春,
Salty打出生涯年,還有Carp跟Gomes好幾次的關鍵一擊。
換句話說,只要去年這些好運有一些沒有維持,今年的成績就肯定比去年糟,
而這幾乎是可以肯定的。
因為背負去年冠軍隊的包袱,所以這一季一開始的路線和預定不太一樣,
包括讓Peavy佔一個輪值的空間,簽豬把XB擠到三壘等等,
現在當賣家只是認清現實,忘記2013,重新回到重建的道路而已。
作為一個重建球隊,到底應不應該花大錢去砸Lester就是討論點所在。
討論的點有兩個
1.Lester還有幾年的黃金期?
2.球隊還需要多久才能重建完成?
Lester的黃金期和球隊重建完成的時間重疊越多,那他作為Core的意義才存在,
目前球隊的重建要到何時,至少也得等明年農場SP驗收完後才會有個大概的答案,
更有可能是後年Owens站穩之後才會有個準,
而Lester的黃金期,樂觀點估計就是再三年(Oliver的預測更狠),
過去兩年投的就是個二號水準,進階數據也沒有特別亮眼之處。
總而言之,FO在Lester的事情上堅守年限是很好的現象,
至少他們知道自己目前正在做什麼(如果換成Bavasi大概144M/7Y就直接開下去了),
這也是為什麼我認為最多只能給Lester 4+1的約,
Overpaid大約是爭冠球隊在搶最後一張拼圖時在做的,不適用紅襪這種重建球隊,
感謝收看。
--
“I know they don’t like the Yankees to win, not even in Nintendo games. And
knowing that I am part of Boston, I consider myself a Bostonian . . . I’m
pretty sure that every Boston fan out there can feel proud that I’m going to
try to beat the Yankees, and I’m going to give just the same effort I always
did for them. They’re special fans, and they will always have my respect.’
2009 WS The night before G6 Pedro Martinez
--
做決定時很果斷,目標明確,使用的方法也很一致。
老實講,紅襪本來就應該是一個retool中的球隊,
只是去年莫名其妙地拿了一個冠軍之後,讓球隊走向一時有點模糊不清,
現在只是回歸基本盤而已。
在2012崩盤的球季後,大家似乎都有共識會有三年左右的黑暗期,
長約大咖全部都被交易走,球隊除了小派沒有Core,完全不像是個爭冠球隊,
FO要retool的決心也很明顯,短約老將填空位,
以便和預計2015的一批農場prospects銜接,
而2013季前的所有動作都不是為了要爭冠,只是為了填空,
所以有一年約的豬、一年約的Napoli、三年約的夏威夷人、兩年約的Gomes和一些路人,
roster裡面充滿了新人,中川、鷹俠、Doubront、Lava、Workman,
大部分也都是為了填空而已,除了中川和鷹俠外大部分都不在未來規劃中。
一般來說,冠軍球隊都有所謂的Core,這通常指可以持續有穩定輸出的明星球員,
也因此可以保證球隊成績有一定水準,不容易波動
(當然也是有Core全部一起爛掉的例子...像是2012年的紅襪)。
去年的紅襪完全是個例外,是一連串的好運相加,才有最後的冠軍,
Nava大爆發,發球機回神,老爹和夏威夷人回春,
Salty打出生涯年,還有Carp跟Gomes好幾次的關鍵一擊。
換句話說,只要去年這些好運有一些沒有維持,今年的成績就肯定比去年糟,
而這幾乎是可以肯定的。
因為背負去年冠軍隊的包袱,所以這一季一開始的路線和預定不太一樣,
包括讓Peavy佔一個輪值的空間,簽豬把XB擠到三壘等等,
現在當賣家只是認清現實,忘記2013,重新回到重建的道路而已。
作為一個重建球隊,到底應不應該花大錢去砸Lester就是討論點所在。
討論的點有兩個
1.Lester還有幾年的黃金期?
2.球隊還需要多久才能重建完成?
Lester的黃金期和球隊重建完成的時間重疊越多,那他作為Core的意義才存在,
目前球隊的重建要到何時,至少也得等明年農場SP驗收完後才會有個大概的答案,
更有可能是後年Owens站穩之後才會有個準,
而Lester的黃金期,樂觀點估計就是再三年(Oliver的預測更狠),
過去兩年投的就是個二號水準,進階數據也沒有特別亮眼之處。
總而言之,FO在Lester的事情上堅守年限是很好的現象,
至少他們知道自己目前正在做什麼(如果換成Bavasi大概144M/7Y就直接開下去了),
這也是為什麼我認為最多只能給Lester 4+1的約,
Overpaid大約是爭冠球隊在搶最後一張拼圖時在做的,不適用紅襪這種重建球隊,
感謝收看。
--
“I know they don’t like the Yankees to win, not even in Nintendo games. And
knowing that I am part of Boston, I consider myself a Bostonian . . . I’m
pretty sure that every Boston fan out there can feel proud that I’m going to
try to beat the Yankees, and I’m going to give just the same effort I always
did for them. They’re special fans, and they will always have my respect.’
2009 WS The night before G6 Pedro Martinez
--
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at 2014-07-30T16:49
07/29 今日消息 & 小聯盟戰報

By Hedy
at 2014-07-30T16:10
at 2014-07-30T16:10
07/29 TOR at BOS Boxscore

By Joe
at 2014-07-30T12:58
at 2014-07-30T12:58
07/28 今日消息 & 小聯盟戰報

By Kristin
at 2014-07-29T16:04
at 2014-07-29T16:04
07/28 TOR at BOS Boxscore

By Blanche
at 2014-07-29T12:02
at 2014-07-29T12:02