K湯的歷史地位已經超越VC了嗎? - NBA

By Audriana
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※ 引述《gk524 (斷背山下智久)》之銘言:
: 如題
: K湯身為2屆冠軍隊的核心球員
: 短短7個球季個人生涯榮譽已經追平VC
: K湯 VC
: 生涯最佳MVP排行榜 (10) (10)
: 年度第二隊 0 1
: 年度第三隊 2 1
: 這邊看起來兩個人幾乎算是平手
: 但要記得...K湯只有少少的7個球季
: VC已經19個球季才跟人打成平手
: 再比上現在NBA最流行的奪冠至上論風氣
: 2>0.....
: 未來也會有許多三分球記錄被K湯打破
: K湯的歷史地位是不是已經超越VC了??
首先會去比較冠軍的,通常是所謂的決定歷史前三、前五排名時的位置
條件大概是奪冠次數、連霸次數、MVP、FMVP、有無抱腿、或是吸引人來抱腿
個人榮譽(數據累積、個人獎、進攻防守一二三隊、明星賽入選次數等等)
季後賽紀錄(得分、進出回數、勝率等等)
而且這些人通常都是主將級別。
有人會拿一些板凳拿冠軍來跟無冠主將比較,哪也是自取其辱罷了。
目前看來K湯跟VC都不會是歷史前十的球員。
K湯有兩冠,當然是比VC多加分,但是從沒人認為勇士主將是K湯,
雖然他有做出很多貢獻,防守、關鍵時刻得分等等,
但是大家還是認為他頂多就是副手級別。
如果不是主將,那冠軍有無並不十分重要,因為大家不是那麼想去戰。
就像巴克利、馬龍、老史、米勒等等的主將球員,沒有冠軍,
但是在數據上有優勢、也是主將級別,大家對他們的尊重也不會差到哪。
頂多就是跟哪些傳奇前三前五比較時,酸一下無冠。
當傳奇VS傳奇 就需要去詳細的比較各種數據。
例如大家會去比LBJ VS KOBE VS MJ ,DUNCAN VS KG VS 司機生涯成就
而"有冠副手球星"VS "無冠主將球星",其實有無冠軍並不是相差那麼大
看的還是數據累積程度、對球員的打法印象是否能留給球迷深刻記錄。
例如想到米勒就是關鍵三分神射,想到馬龍就是郵差接球帥哥灌籃、無敵中距離
想到巴克利就是大屁股單打、全能大前、敢跟歐尼爾幹架
AI就是超矮得分王、改變傳統後衛打法等等...
那想到卡特,就是會讓人想到灌籃。 這是NBA非常重要的一個部分。
如果沒有卡特,NBA的灌籃大賽說不定少辦好幾年。
那K湯呢? 很準的中距離? 很準的三分? 很好的防守? 他這些方面是都很好,
但重點是有沒有一個讓人一想到他,就覺得很特殊的點嗎?
要準,也是有人比他準,要防守,也是有人比他更會守。
很多路人跟他長得很像? 也許是個可能性...
如果可以的話,史上最強無球射手、史上進最多三分球射手 或許是個目標。
附上K湯跟VC的數據比較 REALGM的,https://goo.gl/tDwqm8
先不說數據累積的,這點K湯吃虧,打久的自然累積高
看下面 NBA Career Trajectory 的逐年累計比較圖表。
K湯生涯到現在跟同期VC的數據,沒有一種贏過的。
你說K湯很準,我是相信。
但要比歷史評價的星度,VC 還是大勝。
--
棺材只會裝兩種人,一種是老到沒有嘴齒,壽終正寢的老年人,
另外一種就是鐵齒不信邪的少年人!
--
: 如題
: K湯身為2屆冠軍隊的核心球員
: 短短7個球季個人生涯榮譽已經追平VC
: K湯 VC
: 生涯最佳MVP排行榜 (10) (10)
: 年度第二隊 0 1
: 年度第三隊 2 1
: 這邊看起來兩個人幾乎算是平手
: 但要記得...K湯只有少少的7個球季
: VC已經19個球季才跟人打成平手
: 再比上現在NBA最流行的奪冠至上論風氣
: 2>0.....
: 未來也會有許多三分球記錄被K湯打破
: K湯的歷史地位是不是已經超越VC了??
首先會去比較冠軍的,通常是所謂的決定歷史前三、前五排名時的位置
條件大概是奪冠次數、連霸次數、MVP、FMVP、有無抱腿、或是吸引人來抱腿
個人榮譽(數據累積、個人獎、進攻防守一二三隊、明星賽入選次數等等)
季後賽紀錄(得分、進出回數、勝率等等)
而且這些人通常都是主將級別。
有人會拿一些板凳拿冠軍來跟無冠主將比較,哪也是自取其辱罷了。
目前看來K湯跟VC都不會是歷史前十的球員。
K湯有兩冠,當然是比VC多加分,但是從沒人認為勇士主將是K湯,
雖然他有做出很多貢獻,防守、關鍵時刻得分等等,
但是大家還是認為他頂多就是副手級別。
如果不是主將,那冠軍有無並不十分重要,因為大家不是那麼想去戰。
就像巴克利、馬龍、老史、米勒等等的主將球員,沒有冠軍,
但是在數據上有優勢、也是主將級別,大家對他們的尊重也不會差到哪。
頂多就是跟哪些傳奇前三前五比較時,酸一下無冠。
當傳奇VS傳奇 就需要去詳細的比較各種數據。
例如大家會去比LBJ VS KOBE VS MJ ,DUNCAN VS KG VS 司機生涯成就
而"有冠副手球星"VS "無冠主將球星",其實有無冠軍並不是相差那麼大
看的還是數據累積程度、對球員的打法印象是否能留給球迷深刻記錄。
例如想到米勒就是關鍵三分神射,想到馬龍就是郵差接球帥哥灌籃、無敵中距離
想到巴克利就是大屁股單打、全能大前、敢跟歐尼爾幹架
AI就是超矮得分王、改變傳統後衛打法等等...
那想到卡特,就是會讓人想到灌籃。 這是NBA非常重要的一個部分。
如果沒有卡特,NBA的灌籃大賽說不定少辦好幾年。
那K湯呢? 很準的中距離? 很準的三分? 很好的防守? 他這些方面是都很好,
但重點是有沒有一個讓人一想到他,就覺得很特殊的點嗎?
要準,也是有人比他準,要防守,也是有人比他更會守。
很多路人跟他長得很像? 也許是個可能性...
如果可以的話,史上最強無球射手、史上進最多三分球射手 或許是個目標。
附上K湯跟VC的數據比較 REALGM的,https://goo.gl/tDwqm8
先不說數據累積的,這點K湯吃虧,打久的自然累積高
看下面 NBA Career Trajectory 的逐年累計比較圖表。
K湯生涯到現在跟同期VC的數據,沒有一種贏過的。
你說K湯很準,我是相信。
但要比歷史評價的星度,VC 還是大勝。
--
棺材只會裝兩種人,一種是老到沒有嘴齒,壽終正寢的老年人,
另外一種就是鐵齒不信邪的少年人!
--
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