Kobe進的了名人堂嗎 - NBA
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※ 引述《hermionex (hermionex)》之銘言:
: 小魯是今年才開始看NBA
你確定?
: 以前還沒看時很常聽到Kobe的名子 當時以為Kobe是NBA第一球員
這就是不懂的人 被媒體洗腦的假象 所以以前只會看得分的國中生很愛
當時被狂捧就是高出手高得分的球隊黑暗期 0.67輪
得分這麼猛 帶不起球隊 根本不能稱第一 證明沒大腿就是不行
如果能像LBJ 不要求太多 帶到西冠就好 戰績西區前4就好
不用像LBJ帶到季賽戰績全聯盟第一 跟冠軍戰 但KOBE就是沒有
所以被酸這個不意外 一直在季後賽底部徘徊 然後一輪遊
所以他跟本沒在聯盟當過第一 不過每季實力維持在前5是有的
所以實力算是維持蠻平均的 但最近幾年就是下限年
: 開始看的時候才發現不是
: 據海綿56大及板上專家的說法
: Kobe許多成就似乎是假的?
: 如5冠 其實是偷了 大歐三座 嘎獸2座
不是偷是抱一個更強的大腿 就是當副手 但被某些人一直拿冠軍出來嘴
講得好像都是靠KOBE拿的 甚至還拿冠軍數量比個人實力
整天在那邊5>>>>>>>> 很可笑
要炫戒指就要像MJ 6冠6FMVP 這樣拿冠壓人才有說服力
證明拿冠你貢獻最多 而不是常常在冠軍戰烙賽 如04湖人輸給活塞
冠軍戰輸4場 KOBE這4場都嚴重烙賽烙賽烙賽 很重要說3次
詳情請看 #1H7y9kYs (NBA) [ptt.cc] Re: [討論] 04年冠軍戰湖人怎輸的
但這因為沒拿到冠軍1勝(這場KOBE表現好 就贏了)4敗 所以不多說了
隨便列一下
00年冠軍 4勝2敗
6-13 .462 W
1-3 .333 W 只上9分鐘
沒上 L
14-27 .519 W
4-20 .200 L
8-27 .296 W
第四場不錯 但一場幾乎沒上
後面2場.....恩烙賽風格
歐肥呢 噁心可怕 FMVP不意外
01年冠軍 4勝1敗
7-22 .318 L
11-23 .478 W
13-30 .433 W
6-13 .462 W
7-18 .389 W
沒很糟 2場打得差而已 第四場不錯差點大三元
且出手少 所以很明顯分差最大的一場
贏了14分 歐肥不列了 可怕噁心 FMVP不意外
02年冠軍 4勝0敗
6-16 .375 W
9-15 .600 W
14-23 .609 W
7-16 .438 W
這年不錯稱職的副手
不過前面西冠有歷史上著名的 法院認證黑哨 裁判都承認了
不然湖人幾乎不可能贏國王 結過就這樣打了7場讓湖人闖過西冠
但冠軍戰歐肥一樣 噁心可怕FMVP不意外
光3座 就很明顯靠歐肥Carry了好幾場 結果整天5>>>>>>
5>>>>>>>>4 KOBE>歐肥?? 一直拿冠軍比個人實力 真的好可愛
還有另外兩座冠軍 10年FMVP超有爭議
另外3塔的貢獻也很多 實在沒必要每天自己以為KOBE自己拿了5冠
在那邊5>>>>>>>>>>n
: MVP 偷CP3的 所以其實是沒得過MVP
這已經討論很久了 是事實
: FMVP 一個是偷了嘎獸的
一個超有爭議 一個真的沒問題
: 11次NBA第一隊 根據海綿56大所言 可能要再扣個3次
這個SG位置上 Wade 很猛 但顛峰期就是短了點 無法像KOBE維持這麼久
這個我從來沒酸過第一隊的事情 我也懶得看 這沒很重要
: 單場最高分81分 自幹+對手爛才有的 所以在扣個20分=61分
自幹沒有錯 出手46次 20罰 但命中率倒是很高 是很強沒錯
但怎不提提17-47 41分這種場次 一自幹總有幾場特別好看吧
不過我知道 一直狂幹要81也是有難度 但要17-47 41分也是超有難度
: 17次明星賽 這應該都是迷迷灌票的 所以在扣個5次
這不重要這是人氣票選 跟實力無關 今年0.37毒害球隊 不是也進了
: 12次最佳防守陣容 這好像沒有異議
這我很有異議 KOBE防守大家都知道 看到大牌子 會超認真守
其他時候偏向偷懶 這種態度拿我是很有意見拉 但這種投票出來的
而且數據也不一定看得出來 雖然有些防守數據KB好像沒多好?
這有待人說明 沒特別研究防守數據 所以印像派牌子還是很重要
我是歡迎有人拿數據打我臉 我還蠻想研究防守的
: 32000分 自幹來的 所以在扣個7000=25000
雖然如此 但還是32000分 拿了打鐵王又怎樣 還是32000
無法反駁啥
結論:我可沒說過 KOBE不會進名人堂 一定進的阿
就像一堆人酸LBJ都抱腿 連JR Mozgov 也是超大腿
刷數據 有的沒的 但他即使現在不打30歲退休 一定還是穩進名人堂
你能說啥
--
: 小魯是今年才開始看NBA
你確定?
: 以前還沒看時很常聽到Kobe的名子 當時以為Kobe是NBA第一球員
這就是不懂的人 被媒體洗腦的假象 所以以前只會看得分的國中生很愛
當時被狂捧就是高出手高得分的球隊黑暗期 0.67輪
得分這麼猛 帶不起球隊 根本不能稱第一 證明沒大腿就是不行
如果能像LBJ 不要求太多 帶到西冠就好 戰績西區前4就好
不用像LBJ帶到季賽戰績全聯盟第一 跟冠軍戰 但KOBE就是沒有
所以被酸這個不意外 一直在季後賽底部徘徊 然後一輪遊
所以他跟本沒在聯盟當過第一 不過每季實力維持在前5是有的
所以實力算是維持蠻平均的 但最近幾年就是下限年
: 開始看的時候才發現不是
: 據海綿56大及板上專家的說法
: Kobe許多成就似乎是假的?
: 如5冠 其實是偷了 大歐三座 嘎獸2座
不是偷是抱一個更強的大腿 就是當副手 但被某些人一直拿冠軍出來嘴
講得好像都是靠KOBE拿的 甚至還拿冠軍數量比個人實力
整天在那邊5>>>>>>>> 很可笑
要炫戒指就要像MJ 6冠6FMVP 這樣拿冠壓人才有說服力
證明拿冠你貢獻最多 而不是常常在冠軍戰烙賽 如04湖人輸給活塞
冠軍戰輸4場 KOBE這4場都嚴重烙賽烙賽烙賽 很重要說3次
詳情請看 #1H7y9kYs (NBA) [ptt.cc] Re: [討論] 04年冠軍戰湖人怎輸的
但這因為沒拿到冠軍1勝(這場KOBE表現好 就贏了)4敗 所以不多說了
隨便列一下
00年冠軍 4勝2敗
6-13 .462 W
1-3 .333 W 只上9分鐘
沒上 L
14-27 .519 W
4-20 .200 L
8-27 .296 W
第四場不錯 但一場幾乎沒上
後面2場.....恩烙賽風格
歐肥呢 噁心可怕 FMVP不意外
01年冠軍 4勝1敗
7-22 .318 L
11-23 .478 W
13-30 .433 W
6-13 .462 W
7-18 .389 W
沒很糟 2場打得差而已 第四場不錯差點大三元
且出手少 所以很明顯分差最大的一場
贏了14分 歐肥不列了 可怕噁心 FMVP不意外
02年冠軍 4勝0敗
6-16 .375 W
9-15 .600 W
14-23 .609 W
7-16 .438 W
這年不錯稱職的副手
不過前面西冠有歷史上著名的 法院認證黑哨 裁判都承認了
不然湖人幾乎不可能贏國王 結過就這樣打了7場讓湖人闖過西冠
但冠軍戰歐肥一樣 噁心可怕FMVP不意外
光3座 就很明顯靠歐肥Carry了好幾場 結果整天5>>>>>>
5>>>>>>>>4 KOBE>歐肥?? 一直拿冠軍比個人實力 真的好可愛
還有另外兩座冠軍 10年FMVP超有爭議
另外3塔的貢獻也很多 實在沒必要每天自己以為KOBE自己拿了5冠
在那邊5>>>>>>>>>>n
: MVP 偷CP3的 所以其實是沒得過MVP
這已經討論很久了 是事實
: FMVP 一個是偷了嘎獸的
一個超有爭議 一個真的沒問題
: 11次NBA第一隊 根據海綿56大所言 可能要再扣個3次
這個SG位置上 Wade 很猛 但顛峰期就是短了點 無法像KOBE維持這麼久
這個我從來沒酸過第一隊的事情 我也懶得看 這沒很重要
: 單場最高分81分 自幹+對手爛才有的 所以在扣個20分=61分
自幹沒有錯 出手46次 20罰 但命中率倒是很高 是很強沒錯
但怎不提提17-47 41分這種場次 一自幹總有幾場特別好看吧
不過我知道 一直狂幹要81也是有難度 但要17-47 41分也是超有難度
: 17次明星賽 這應該都是迷迷灌票的 所以在扣個5次
這不重要這是人氣票選 跟實力無關 今年0.37毒害球隊 不是也進了
: 12次最佳防守陣容 這好像沒有異議
這我很有異議 KOBE防守大家都知道 看到大牌子 會超認真守
其他時候偏向偷懶 這種態度拿我是很有意見拉 但這種投票出來的
而且數據也不一定看得出來 雖然有些防守數據KB好像沒多好?
這有待人說明 沒特別研究防守數據 所以印像派牌子還是很重要
我是歡迎有人拿數據打我臉 我還蠻想研究防守的
: 32000分 自幹來的 所以在扣個7000=25000
雖然如此 但還是32000分 拿了打鐵王又怎樣 還是32000
無法反駁啥
結論:我可沒說過 KOBE不會進名人堂 一定進的阿
就像一堆人酸LBJ都抱腿 連JR Mozgov 也是超大腿
刷數據 有的沒的 但他即使現在不打30歲退休 一定還是穩進名人堂
你能說啥
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