KG:三巨頭因一電話引發矛盾 ray再無聯繫 - NBA

By Linda
at 2017-05-10T01:09
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: 君子雷之所以被叫君子雷不是沒有原因
有一種人叫做真小人
有一種人叫做偽君子
去熱火的前一季 Ray Allen
在季末受傷了,3月底4月初
取而代之的是越打越好的Avery Bradley
接下來歸隊的Ray Allen與Doc Rivers談論要去板凳的想法
http://www.celticslife.com/2012/04/ray-approached-doc-about-coming-off.html
“At the end of the day your minutes don’t change, and that’s one thing I’
m very cognizant about when I’m out there in the flow,” said Allen. “It’s
an ego thing to start, and my ego is not that big where I feel I have to be
in the starting lineup.”
上場時間是不變的;而有沒有先發對我而言not that big
好喔,看樣子你好像不是那麼在意麻
而在下一季,Ray Allen選擇了加盟薪水較少的熱火隊
去當D-Wade替補
8月2日 Woj大神發表了有關Doc Rivers對於Ray的想法
https://tinyurl.com/lgj95xp
1. He was upset that Rondo had the ball so much and his role in the offense.
抱怨Rondo的球權問題(第一次知道)
2. He was upset that he was a sixth man.
當第六人感到不滿
(厄 你不是說有沒有先發不是那麼在意?
所以當D-Wade的替補 比 Avery Bradley的替補光榮多了是吧?
......阿你不是說當第六人感到不滿XD)
3. He was upset that he was constantly talked about in trades.
對於交易傳言感到沮喪
NBA球員被交易不就很正常?
啊,你有被交易掉嗎?
4. He and Rondo had "developed a deep disdain for each other".
跟Rondo有心結 (這也是第一次在媒體知道)
5. He was upset with how he was compensated.
這邊就不知道指哪件事情了
2012年9月26日 Rondo說Ray的離開跟他無關 (本人第一次反駁上述第四點)
2012年9月29日 KG說:我不會再與Ray聯絡了
“我以為,我、KG和 Allen ,我們3個能一起結束職業生涯的。
他去邁阿密讓我非常驚訝。不過你也懂 Allen 的。
他是大人了,他得做出他覺得對自己,
還有家人來說最好的決定。
如果他要離開,那麼我希望他能去快艇。
但他去了我們在東區決賽的死敵。
有種人叫做真小人,把話說清楚,就算人家討厭他
他也不在意,這人就是KG
同一天 Ray對於KG的發言說:我和KG還是朋友 https://tinyurl.com/lk7c4la
2012年10月27日 CSNNE新聞採訪了Doc Rivers
http://tinyurl.com/92fvn6n
裡面兩段文字
“Ray wanted the ball more and things like that… it’s like I tell the guys
this every year… if you’re here for me to run stuff for to make you look
good, you’re in the wrong place. If you’re here for me to run stuff to
make the team look good, then you’re in the right place.”
他想要更多球權掌握或是其他事情...那就像是我每年會跟球員說的:
"如果你在這打球是為了讓你看起來更棒,你處於錯誤的位置;
如果你在這打球是為了讓球隊看起來更棒,那你就是在正確的位置。"
當年季後賽打完,Ray Allen也在7月度過他的37歲生日
你不想當Avery Bradley的替補,也不甘願在Rondo指揮下打球
好吧,37歲的你去找你的先發位置吧 (結果也是去當替補)
“When free agency started, Ray didn’t return Danny’s calls, he didn’t
return my calls, so I stopped trying. Listen, if you’ve been with me and
our time for 5 years of 4 years and I’ve got to call you every 10 seconds in
free agency, then you probably don’t want to be here.”
當FA期間開始時,他沒有回DA的電話,他沒回我的電話,所以我不再嘗試(打電話給他)了。
聽著,如果你已經跟我們相處有四、五年了而我在FA那段時間還要每十秒打給你一次,
我想...你可能不想待在這了。"
所以Free Agent開始,不接總教練電話,也不接球團GM電話
事情可以搞得不用那麼難看的
2013年6月3日
Gilroy on Hoops @GilroyonHoops
People close to Ray Allen claiming he is thinking about opting out of his
contract hoping to return to Boston for 1 year & retire a celtic.
常接近Ray的人傳出,Ray有意願跳出合約,回到賽爾提克一年,以賽爾提克人身分退休
未證實流言,不過,你覺得有可能嗎?Ray Allen?
而在2013年6月5日
BR有篇Ray Allen的文章出來了
https://tinyurl.com/n6ze9n3
當時hoopchina的翻譯借用一下
「是的,沒錯」,在淘汰溜馬晉級總決賽後,熱火隊的得分後衛Ray Allen
說道。「當我們坐下討論的時候,當然「我們」是指我的家人和那些支持我
愛我的親人,我們談到了自私和給自己一個贏的機會。我們想要贏球,我們
不想在之後陷入一個掙扎的困境。」
「現在這種狀況對我來說真是一種解脫。因為你知道的,很多時候你只能放
手一搏。你的家人相信你,而現在的局面可以說是皆大歡喜的。我知道最後
的成功就在不遠處了。」
ok,所以你去熱火隊純粹是為了贏球嚕
接下來的一季,2013年11月10日
https://tinyurl.com/pzngsyl
Ray Allen says Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett still haven't talked to him
since he left Boston Celtics for Miami Heat
阿沒說過話就沒說過話,你想幹嘛?
接下來的球季,賽爾提克已經是重建中了
直到去年8月6日
Ray Allen says he has 'spoken' to Celtics about possible comeback
https://tinyurl.com/l4xw45t
去年的那時候,一堆人猜他會去馬刺或是騎士隊
此時的Ainge還有意願將他帶回來
不過在FA市場上KD沒來,只有來Al
結果Ray哪一隊都沒去,11月1日宣布退休
11月3日
PP有個採訪,希望他、Rondo、KG能和Ray恢復如初
此時已經是2016年了,回首三巨頭初創已經快十年了
而這兩天三巨頭獨缺Ray Allen的相聚
KG說了沒有邀請他的原因
https://tinyurl.com/mbxcbat
“People don’t understand that this is real life for us. The situation with
Ray is very sensitive. I think when we all talked about doing this reunion
tour, we was talking about guys that we consider loyal, part of this group.
Just being honest — my two cent, man. When Ray decided to go to the Heat, I
felt like he moved on. He went to pursue another ring. He got another ring —
shout to him. And that’s it … It was all Celtics invited to this.”
關於Ray的狀況是非常敏感的,當我們談到這個冠軍隊相聚,我們希望是忠誠而且是這
個團隊的一份子,而當他決定去熱火時,我覺得他已經(放下這些)往前走了,他拿到冠軍
戒,就是這樣。
有一種人叫做真小人
有一種人叫做偽君子
KG把話說清楚了,要對這團體有一定忠誠度,要是這團體的一份子
而你Ray Allen,並不是
這種人叫做真小人,指的就是KG
而Ray Allen在三小時之前在臉書丟了一張圖
放一張在熱火隊與Rondo纏鬥的圖上去
The power to push limits
想說什麼?
1.
從頭到尾,Rondo對於Ray Allen的想法 只有那一次
"Ray的離開與他沒關係"
就沒說過對於他的話了
2.
而KG則是兩個新聞
一個是大家一直酸的刪電話事件 (從不會再與Ray聯絡)
一個就是這兩天的08年冠軍隊重聚 (我們沒有邀請他)
3.PP去年想要三巨頭跟Rondo和好
但是徒勞無功
4.
Ray的立場,從不在意先發→想要贏球→(自己)認為和KG還是朋友
→想回賽爾提克打球(未證實)→說PP跟KG跟他很久沒聯絡
→有跟賽爾提克談過回來打球的可能性(事實)→到今天的The power to push limits
從三巨頭拆夥後
一直放話的一直是你,Rondo到底與你有沒有嫌隙你也不說
Ainge想找你回來賽爾提克你也沒答應
PP想要你們和好也沒進展 (當然這不只是他的關係)
至於KG始終都把話說清楚
而你從來也沒說過真正原因,啊有啦
你想贏球是吧
而到了今天,沒受到重聚邀請的你
放那一張圖來表示你對沒去08冠軍重聚的不滿?還是怎樣?
說清楚啊
有一種人叫做真小人
有一種人叫做偽君子
真小人始終把話說開,即使會傷人
他也不在意
這種人很討厭
而
有種人叫做偽君子,始終不把話說清楚
這些年來對於三巨頭事情,放話最多的就是你
講不清楚的也是你
沒受到邀請,不是很正常嗎?
你知道你的臉書頭像是放哪一隊的照片嗎?
還叫你君子 已經是給你面子了
--
我們的世界很大很大
他們的世界只有我們
--
有一種人叫做真小人
有一種人叫做偽君子
去熱火的前一季 Ray Allen
在季末受傷了,3月底4月初
取而代之的是越打越好的Avery Bradley
接下來歸隊的Ray Allen與Doc Rivers談論要去板凳的想法
http://www.celticslife.com/2012/04/ray-approached-doc-about-coming-off.html
“At the end of the day your minutes don’t change, and that’s one thing I’
m very cognizant about when I’m out there in the flow,” said Allen. “It’s
an ego thing to start, and my ego is not that big where I feel I have to be
in the starting lineup.”
上場時間是不變的;而有沒有先發對我而言not that big
好喔,看樣子你好像不是那麼在意麻
而在下一季,Ray Allen選擇了加盟薪水較少的熱火隊
去當D-Wade替補
8月2日 Woj大神發表了有關Doc Rivers對於Ray的想法
https://tinyurl.com/lgj95xp
1. He was upset that Rondo had the ball so much and his role in the offense.
抱怨Rondo的球權問題(第一次知道)
2. He was upset that he was a sixth man.
當第六人感到不滿
(厄 你不是說有沒有先發不是那麼在意?
所以當D-Wade的替補 比 Avery Bradley的替補光榮多了是吧?
......阿你不是說當第六人感到不滿XD)
3. He was upset that he was constantly talked about in trades.
對於交易傳言感到沮喪
NBA球員被交易不就很正常?
啊,你有被交易掉嗎?
4. He and Rondo had "developed a deep disdain for each other".
跟Rondo有心結 (這也是第一次在媒體知道)
5. He was upset with how he was compensated.
這邊就不知道指哪件事情了
2012年9月26日 Rondo說Ray的離開跟他無關 (本人第一次反駁上述第四點)
2012年9月29日 KG說:我不會再與Ray聯絡了
“我以為,我、KG和 Allen ,我們3個能一起結束職業生涯的。
他去邁阿密讓我非常驚訝。不過你也懂 Allen 的。
他是大人了,他得做出他覺得對自己,
還有家人來說最好的決定。
如果他要離開,那麼我希望他能去快艇。
但他去了我們在東區決賽的死敵。
有種人叫做真小人,把話說清楚,就算人家討厭他
他也不在意,這人就是KG
同一天 Ray對於KG的發言說:我和KG還是朋友 https://tinyurl.com/lk7c4la
2012年10月27日 CSNNE新聞採訪了Doc Rivers
http://tinyurl.com/92fvn6n
裡面兩段文字
“Ray wanted the ball more and things like that… it’s like I tell the guys
this every year… if you’re here for me to run stuff for to make you look
good, you’re in the wrong place. If you’re here for me to run stuff to
make the team look good, then you’re in the right place.”
他想要更多球權掌握或是其他事情...那就像是我每年會跟球員說的:
"如果你在這打球是為了讓你看起來更棒,你處於錯誤的位置;
如果你在這打球是為了讓球隊看起來更棒,那你就是在正確的位置。"
當年季後賽打完,Ray Allen也在7月度過他的37歲生日
你不想當Avery Bradley的替補,也不甘願在Rondo指揮下打球
好吧,37歲的你去找你的先發位置吧 (結果也是去當替補)
“When free agency started, Ray didn’t return Danny’s calls, he didn’t
return my calls, so I stopped trying. Listen, if you’ve been with me and
our time for 5 years of 4 years and I’ve got to call you every 10 seconds in
free agency, then you probably don’t want to be here.”
當FA期間開始時,他沒有回DA的電話,他沒回我的電話,所以我不再嘗試(打電話給他)了。
聽著,如果你已經跟我們相處有四、五年了而我在FA那段時間還要每十秒打給你一次,
我想...你可能不想待在這了。"
所以Free Agent開始,不接總教練電話,也不接球團GM電話
事情可以搞得不用那麼難看的
2013年6月3日
Gilroy on Hoops @GilroyonHoops
People close to Ray Allen claiming he is thinking about opting out of his
contract hoping to return to Boston for 1 year & retire a celtic.
常接近Ray的人傳出,Ray有意願跳出合約,回到賽爾提克一年,以賽爾提克人身分退休
未證實流言,不過,你覺得有可能嗎?Ray Allen?
而在2013年6月5日
BR有篇Ray Allen的文章出來了
https://tinyurl.com/n6ze9n3
當時hoopchina的翻譯借用一下
「是的,沒錯」,在淘汰溜馬晉級總決賽後,熱火隊的得分後衛Ray Allen
說道。「當我們坐下討論的時候,當然「我們」是指我的家人和那些支持我
愛我的親人,我們談到了自私和給自己一個贏的機會。我們想要贏球,我們
不想在之後陷入一個掙扎的困境。」
「現在這種狀況對我來說真是一種解脫。因為你知道的,很多時候你只能放
手一搏。你的家人相信你,而現在的局面可以說是皆大歡喜的。我知道最後
的成功就在不遠處了。」
ok,所以你去熱火隊純粹是為了贏球嚕
接下來的一季,2013年11月10日
https://tinyurl.com/pzngsyl
Ray Allen says Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett still haven't talked to him
since he left Boston Celtics for Miami Heat
阿沒說過話就沒說過話,你想幹嘛?
接下來的球季,賽爾提克已經是重建中了
直到去年8月6日
Ray Allen says he has 'spoken' to Celtics about possible comeback
https://tinyurl.com/l4xw45t
去年的那時候,一堆人猜他會去馬刺或是騎士隊
此時的Ainge還有意願將他帶回來
不過在FA市場上KD沒來,只有來Al
結果Ray哪一隊都沒去,11月1日宣布退休
11月3日
PP有個採訪,希望他、Rondo、KG能和Ray恢復如初
此時已經是2016年了,回首三巨頭初創已經快十年了
而這兩天三巨頭獨缺Ray Allen的相聚
KG說了沒有邀請他的原因
https://tinyurl.com/mbxcbat
“People don’t understand that this is real life for us. The situation with
Ray is very sensitive. I think when we all talked about doing this reunion
tour, we was talking about guys that we consider loyal, part of this group.
Just being honest — my two cent, man. When Ray decided to go to the Heat, I
felt like he moved on. He went to pursue another ring. He got another ring —
shout to him. And that’s it … It was all Celtics invited to this.”
關於Ray的狀況是非常敏感的,當我們談到這個冠軍隊相聚,我們希望是忠誠而且是這
個團隊的一份子,而當他決定去熱火時,我覺得他已經(放下這些)往前走了,他拿到冠軍
戒,就是這樣。
有一種人叫做真小人
有一種人叫做偽君子
KG把話說清楚了,要對這團體有一定忠誠度,要是這團體的一份子
而你Ray Allen,並不是
這種人叫做真小人,指的就是KG
而Ray Allen在三小時之前在臉書丟了一張圖
放一張在熱火隊與Rondo纏鬥的圖上去
The power to push limits
想說什麼?
1.
從頭到尾,Rondo對於Ray Allen的想法 只有那一次
"Ray的離開與他沒關係"
就沒說過對於他的話了
2.
而KG則是兩個新聞
一個是大家一直酸的刪電話事件 (從不會再與Ray聯絡)
一個就是這兩天的08年冠軍隊重聚 (我們沒有邀請他)
3.PP去年想要三巨頭跟Rondo和好
但是徒勞無功
4.
Ray的立場,從不在意先發→想要贏球→(自己)認為和KG還是朋友
→想回賽爾提克打球(未證實)→說PP跟KG跟他很久沒聯絡
→有跟賽爾提克談過回來打球的可能性(事實)→到今天的The power to push limits
從三巨頭拆夥後
一直放話的一直是你,Rondo到底與你有沒有嫌隙你也不說
Ainge想找你回來賽爾提克你也沒答應
PP想要你們和好也沒進展 (當然這不只是他的關係)
至於KG始終都把話說清楚
而你從來也沒說過真正原因,啊有啦
你想贏球是吧
而到了今天,沒受到重聚邀請的你
放那一張圖來表示你對沒去08冠軍重聚的不滿?還是怎樣?
說清楚啊
有一種人叫做真小人
有一種人叫做偽君子
真小人始終把話說開,即使會傷人
他也不在意
這種人很討厭
而
有種人叫做偽君子,始終不把話說清楚
這些年來對於三巨頭事情,放話最多的就是你
講不清楚的也是你
沒受到邀請,不是很正常嗎?
你知道你的臉書頭像是放哪一隊的照片嗎?
還叫你君子 已經是給你面子了
--
我們的世界很大很大
他們的世界只有我們
--
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