Curry是史上最強三分射手 沒有之一 - NBA

By Oliver
at 2015-03-30T21:19
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※ 引述《aalluubbaa (wenwenyenyen)》之銘言:
: 跟Curry所有三分相關類型都點滿還是有差 因為就算純比命中率
: Curry生涯也是小贏Korver
原文
http://www.sportsv.net/articles/11252
我不想去爭論誰強誰弱這種無聊的問題,特別是由被助攻數來決定誰強誰弱
這更是無意義中的無意義,因為這跟球員的特性有關。
被助攻數可以拿來研究球員攻擊型態的差異,但是不能斷定被助攻率的高低
就代表一個球員的強弱。
話說回來Curry目前的數據的確是一個非常特殊的存在。這種人物在NBA的歷史上
還沒有出現過,所以你很難對這種球員做出絕對的評價。
NBA從1980球季引入三分球,如果我們以這個球季開始,列出單季三分球命中最
多次的前三名,分別是:
(括號內為第一名的投進數量)
80(90): B.Tayler, R.Barry, C.Ford
81(57): M.Bratz, J.Hassett, F.Williams
82(73): D.Buse, J.Hassett, M.Bratz
83(67): M.Dunleavy(是的,他就是小鄧理維的老爸), A.Leavell, D. Griffith
84(91): D.Griffith, M.Cooper, M.Evans
85(92): D.Griffith, W.Free, M.Evans
86(82): L.Bird, C.Hodges, W.Free
87(90): L.Bird, M.Cooper, D.Ellis/M.McGee
88(148): D.Ainge, M.Adams, D.Ellis (從這一年開始三分線開始成為重要得分來源)
89(166): M.Adams, D.Ellis, H.Pressley
90(158). M.Adams, M.Price, R.Miller
91(172): V.Maxwell, M.Adams, T.Porter
92(162): V.Maxwell, G.Rice, D.Ellis
93(167): D.Majerle/R.Miller, D.Ainge
94(192): D.Majerle, D.Scott, D.Curry (Stephen Curry老爸)
95(217): J.Starks, M.Blaylock/D.Majerle
96(267): D.Scott, G. McCloud,M.Blaylock
97(229): R.Miller, M.Blaylock, G.Rice
98(192): W.Person, R.Miller, J.Domas/T.Murray
99(135): D.Brown, T.Hardaway, R.Miller
00(177): G.Payton, R.Allen, L.Hunter
01(221): A.Walker, R.Allen, T.Hardaway
02(229): R.Allen, A.Walker, P.Pierce
03(201): R.Allen, A.Walker, M.Redd
04(240): P.Stojakovic, B.Davis, E.Jones
05(226): K.Korver/Q.Richardson, D.Jones
06(269): R.Allen, G.Arenas, R.Bell
07(205): G.Arenas/R.Bell, M.Miller
08(243): J.Richardson/P.Stojakovic/R.Lewis
09(220): R.Lewis, R.Allen, M.Williams
10(209): A.Brooks, D.Gallinari, J.Kidd
11(194): D.Wright, J.Richardson, K.Martin
12(166): R.Anderson, J.Terry, K.Durant/S.Novak
13(272): S.Curry, R.Anderson, K.Thompson
14(261): S.Curry, K.Thompson, D.Liiard
15(247): S.Curry, K.Thompson, K.Korver (進行中)
從這幾個名單裡面我們可以看到幾個明顯的趨勢:
1.從來沒有球員可以在三分球命中排行榜上三連霸,從來沒有。就算強如Ray Allen
,Reggie Miller,最多也是二連霸,而且Reggie Miller也只有排在第一一次,Allen
也只有三次。要在三分球命中數排行上三連霸比得分王三連霸還要難得多,三分球是
一個不穩定的得分方法,以三分球為主的球員每個球季的起伏可能就比較大。
但是...Curry已經在這個項目上,沒有意外的話即將會三連霸,如果剩下的這幾場
他不關機的話,甚至還有可能打破他自己創下的272顆三分球的紀錄,甚至,如果
沒有太大的意外(比如受傷),以目前正邁入巔峰期的Curry來看,他甚至有可能
四連霸,五連霸(另外一個意外大概就是他的隊友超過他,見鬼了...)....
NBA歷史上從未有人能在三分球命中數項目上達到三連霸,Curry今年將是第一人。
2.名單中我們可以很明顯看出來,排行在前面的球員幾乎小前鋒或是得分後衛,這些
不負擔控球任務,主要是接球出手的球員,這裡面擔任球隊主力控球同時又得投進許
多分的球員大概只有以下幾個:
斜線左邊是當季平均助攻,中間是平均每場投進三分球數,右邊是三分命中率
80 PG Brian Taylor (4.3/1.2/37.7%)
81 PG Mike Bratz (5.7/0.7/33.7%)
82 PG Don Buse (5.0/0.9/38.6%)
83 PG Allen Leavell (6.7/0.5/24%)
85 PG World Free (4.5/1.0/36.8%)
88 SG Danny Ainge (6.2/1.8/41.5%)
89 PG Michael Adams (6.4/2.2/35.6%) 有名的矮個控球得分好手
90 PG Mark Price (9.1/2.1/40.6%) Curry之前的最強射手控球
93 PG Terry Porter (5.2/1.8/41.4%)
95 SG John Starks (5.1/2.7/35.5%)
96 PG Mookie Blaylock (5.9/2.9/37.1%)
99 PG Tim Hardaway (7.3/2.3/36.0%)
00 PG Gary Payton (8.9/2.2/34.0%)
04 PG Baron Davis (7.5/2.8/32.1%)
07 PG Gilbert Arenas (6.0/2.8/35.1%)
09 PG Mo Williams (4.1/2.3/43.6%) 其實這一年實際上的控球是LBJ
10 PG Jason Kidd (9.1/2.2/42.5%) Jason Kidd老妖怪
13 PG Stephen Curry (6.9/3.5/45.3%)
14 PG Stephen Curry (8.5/3.3/42.4%)
14 PG Damien Lillard (5.6/2.7/39.4%)
Lillard的成績已經算不錯,但還是跟Curry完全不在同一個世界
15 PG Stephen Curry (7.9/3.5/43.1%)
控球員由於被助攻率低,持球機會又多,相對獲得空檔的機會較為有限,因此
出手相較之下常常會是自己帶球,就算是出手很多的控球後衛,也很難把命中
率拉高,以上這些控球三分射手當中,能夠有單季投籃命中率超過40%以上的人
,只有Danny Ainge(但實際上Celtics很多時間球是給Bird處理的),Mark Price
(他是真的準),Terry Porter,Mo Williams(但實際上控球是LBJ),Jason Kidd
(真正的老妖怪),Stephen Curry。
Curry這三年平均每場都可以至少命中3.3顆以上的三分球,還能維持超過4成的命中率
,同時傳出7次或將近7次以上的助攻,他不但穩,穩又準,準以外又多,多以外還能
組織球隊,這根本是NBA有史以來前所未有的控球種類。
一個三分球可能是NBA史上上最準最多的控球,你到底要怎麼防他?防他傳球還是防他
投籃?還是乾脆放棄,反正他都專進一些豪洨球啊,不合常理的出手選擇在他身上已經
成為常理,我們已經看過無數次他在完全不該出手的距離,不該出手的時間跟不該出手
的角度隨便亂丟,然後隨便亂進。
是的,我雖然我不能認同之前用被助攻率來判斷Curry是不是史上最佳的三分射手,但
我可以肯定,以同時擔任球隊主力控球的射手來說,Curry已經用三年證明,他就是史
上最強的三分控球,僅此一位,別無分號。
至於是不是史上最強的三分射手,Curry生涯還很長,這一點我還持保留態度,不過,
他應該是這個項目非常強力的候選人,這一點沒有疑問,希望他能健健康康打下去。
有時候我會想,如果他的出手選擇能像Korver或Nash那樣,那他的命中率可以高到什
麼地步。
(Nash只有在2008年排行第8,2002年排行第9)
(Curry除了三分超準之外,根據前一場媒體提供的數據顯示,Curry還是聯盟快攻
得分第二名...同時身兼主力射手,控球,快攻箭頭...這到底哪裡來的妖怪)
--
: 跟Curry所有三分相關類型都點滿還是有差 因為就算純比命中率
: Curry生涯也是小贏Korver
原文
http://www.sportsv.net/articles/11252
我不想去爭論誰強誰弱這種無聊的問題,特別是由被助攻數來決定誰強誰弱
這更是無意義中的無意義,因為這跟球員的特性有關。
被助攻數可以拿來研究球員攻擊型態的差異,但是不能斷定被助攻率的高低
就代表一個球員的強弱。
話說回來Curry目前的數據的確是一個非常特殊的存在。這種人物在NBA的歷史上
還沒有出現過,所以你很難對這種球員做出絕對的評價。
NBA從1980球季引入三分球,如果我們以這個球季開始,列出單季三分球命中最
多次的前三名,分別是:
(括號內為第一名的投進數量)
80(90): B.Tayler, R.Barry, C.Ford
81(57): M.Bratz, J.Hassett, F.Williams
82(73): D.Buse, J.Hassett, M.Bratz
83(67): M.Dunleavy(是的,他就是小鄧理維的老爸), A.Leavell, D. Griffith
84(91): D.Griffith, M.Cooper, M.Evans
85(92): D.Griffith, W.Free, M.Evans
86(82): L.Bird, C.Hodges, W.Free
87(90): L.Bird, M.Cooper, D.Ellis/M.McGee
88(148): D.Ainge, M.Adams, D.Ellis (從這一年開始三分線開始成為重要得分來源)
89(166): M.Adams, D.Ellis, H.Pressley
90(158). M.Adams, M.Price, R.Miller
91(172): V.Maxwell, M.Adams, T.Porter
92(162): V.Maxwell, G.Rice, D.Ellis
93(167): D.Majerle/R.Miller, D.Ainge
94(192): D.Majerle, D.Scott, D.Curry (Stephen Curry老爸)
95(217): J.Starks, M.Blaylock/D.Majerle
96(267): D.Scott, G. McCloud,M.Blaylock
97(229): R.Miller, M.Blaylock, G.Rice
98(192): W.Person, R.Miller, J.Domas/T.Murray
99(135): D.Brown, T.Hardaway, R.Miller
00(177): G.Payton, R.Allen, L.Hunter
01(221): A.Walker, R.Allen, T.Hardaway
02(229): R.Allen, A.Walker, P.Pierce
03(201): R.Allen, A.Walker, M.Redd
04(240): P.Stojakovic, B.Davis, E.Jones
05(226): K.Korver/Q.Richardson, D.Jones
06(269): R.Allen, G.Arenas, R.Bell
07(205): G.Arenas/R.Bell, M.Miller
08(243): J.Richardson/P.Stojakovic/R.Lewis
09(220): R.Lewis, R.Allen, M.Williams
10(209): A.Brooks, D.Gallinari, J.Kidd
11(194): D.Wright, J.Richardson, K.Martin
12(166): R.Anderson, J.Terry, K.Durant/S.Novak
13(272): S.Curry, R.Anderson, K.Thompson
14(261): S.Curry, K.Thompson, D.Liiard
15(247): S.Curry, K.Thompson, K.Korver (進行中)
從這幾個名單裡面我們可以看到幾個明顯的趨勢:
1.從來沒有球員可以在三分球命中排行榜上三連霸,從來沒有。就算強如Ray Allen
,Reggie Miller,最多也是二連霸,而且Reggie Miller也只有排在第一一次,Allen
也只有三次。要在三分球命中數排行上三連霸比得分王三連霸還要難得多,三分球是
一個不穩定的得分方法,以三分球為主的球員每個球季的起伏可能就比較大。
但是...Curry已經在這個項目上,沒有意外的話即將會三連霸,如果剩下的這幾場
他不關機的話,甚至還有可能打破他自己創下的272顆三分球的紀錄,甚至,如果
沒有太大的意外(比如受傷),以目前正邁入巔峰期的Curry來看,他甚至有可能
四連霸,五連霸(另外一個意外大概就是他的隊友超過他,見鬼了...)....
NBA歷史上從未有人能在三分球命中數項目上達到三連霸,Curry今年將是第一人。
2.名單中我們可以很明顯看出來,排行在前面的球員幾乎小前鋒或是得分後衛,這些
不負擔控球任務,主要是接球出手的球員,這裡面擔任球隊主力控球同時又得投進許
多分的球員大概只有以下幾個:
斜線左邊是當季平均助攻,中間是平均每場投進三分球數,右邊是三分命中率
80 PG Brian Taylor (4.3/1.2/37.7%)
81 PG Mike Bratz (5.7/0.7/33.7%)
82 PG Don Buse (5.0/0.9/38.6%)
83 PG Allen Leavell (6.7/0.5/24%)
85 PG World Free (4.5/1.0/36.8%)
88 SG Danny Ainge (6.2/1.8/41.5%)
89 PG Michael Adams (6.4/2.2/35.6%) 有名的矮個控球得分好手
90 PG Mark Price (9.1/2.1/40.6%) Curry之前的最強射手控球
93 PG Terry Porter (5.2/1.8/41.4%)
95 SG John Starks (5.1/2.7/35.5%)
96 PG Mookie Blaylock (5.9/2.9/37.1%)
99 PG Tim Hardaway (7.3/2.3/36.0%)
00 PG Gary Payton (8.9/2.2/34.0%)
04 PG Baron Davis (7.5/2.8/32.1%)
07 PG Gilbert Arenas (6.0/2.8/35.1%)
09 PG Mo Williams (4.1/2.3/43.6%) 其實這一年實際上的控球是LBJ
10 PG Jason Kidd (9.1/2.2/42.5%) Jason Kidd老妖怪
13 PG Stephen Curry (6.9/3.5/45.3%)
14 PG Stephen Curry (8.5/3.3/42.4%)
14 PG Damien Lillard (5.6/2.7/39.4%)
Lillard的成績已經算不錯,但還是跟Curry完全不在同一個世界
15 PG Stephen Curry (7.9/3.5/43.1%)
控球員由於被助攻率低,持球機會又多,相對獲得空檔的機會較為有限,因此
出手相較之下常常會是自己帶球,就算是出手很多的控球後衛,也很難把命中
率拉高,以上這些控球三分射手當中,能夠有單季投籃命中率超過40%以上的人
,只有Danny Ainge(但實際上Celtics很多時間球是給Bird處理的),Mark Price
(他是真的準),Terry Porter,Mo Williams(但實際上控球是LBJ),Jason Kidd
(真正的老妖怪),Stephen Curry。
Curry這三年平均每場都可以至少命中3.3顆以上的三分球,還能維持超過4成的命中率
,同時傳出7次或將近7次以上的助攻,他不但穩,穩又準,準以外又多,多以外還能
組織球隊,這根本是NBA有史以來前所未有的控球種類。
一個三分球可能是NBA史上上最準最多的控球,你到底要怎麼防他?防他傳球還是防他
投籃?還是乾脆放棄,反正他都專進一些豪洨球啊,不合常理的出手選擇在他身上已經
成為常理,我們已經看過無數次他在完全不該出手的距離,不該出手的時間跟不該出手
的角度隨便亂丟,然後隨便亂進。
是的,我雖然我不能認同之前用被助攻率來判斷Curry是不是史上最佳的三分射手,但
我可以肯定,以同時擔任球隊主力控球的射手來說,Curry已經用三年證明,他就是史
上最強的三分控球,僅此一位,別無分號。
至於是不是史上最強的三分射手,Curry生涯還很長,這一點我還持保留態度,不過,
他應該是這個項目非常強力的候選人,這一點沒有疑問,希望他能健健康康打下去。
有時候我會想,如果他的出手選擇能像Korver或Nash那樣,那他的命中率可以高到什
麼地步。
(Nash只有在2008年排行第8,2002年排行第9)
(Curry除了三分超準之外,根據前一場媒體提供的數據顯示,Curry還是聯盟快攻
得分第二名...同時身兼主力射手,控球,快攻箭頭...這到底哪裡來的妖怪)
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