Bird的成就真的"明顯"不如Magic嗎? - NBA

By Oscar
at 2017-12-10T17:28
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大意:
很多人看到5冠3MVP3FMVP比3冠3MVP2FMVP要多,就說Magic Johnson的成就明顯高過Larry
Bird。但是,考量兩人隊友教練差異,以至於1980年代的東強西弱局勢後,我們直接用冠
軍差距評價兩人是否對Bird不公平?
我們來看扣除湖塞兩隊後,80年代每個賽季東西區球隊戰績狀況(藍色代表東區佔優勢,
紅色代表西區佔優勢)。由於Bird在88-89賽季整季報銷後身手大衰退拖離巔峰,因此我們
只取樣到88-89賽季。
賽季 50勝球隊 55勝球隊 60勝球隊
1979-80 2-2 1-2 0-0
1980-81 3-2 2-0 2-0
1981-82 2-1 2-0 0-0
1982-83 2-2 1-0 1-0
1983-84 2-0 0-0 0-0
1984-85 2-1 2-0 0-0
1985-86 3-1 1-0 0-0
1986-87 3-1 1-1 0-0
1987-88 3-3 0-0 0-0
1988-89 4-2 2-1 1-0
這十年內,東區戰績佔優勢的次數和西區戰績佔優勢的比例大到17:1!尤其西區在81-86
年間除了湖人以外沒有任何球隊贏得55勝以上的戰績,同期的東區十年內卻有八年出現過
除了塞爾蒂克以外的55勝球隊!更不用說整個80年代西區就只有湖人拿過單季60勝戰績,
東區則是有過四支除了塞爾蒂克以外的60勝球隊。最扯的是80-81賽季,那時聯盟前三名
全部來自東區,且這三隊都有至少60勝!因此我們很明顯的可以看出,西區當年的競爭力
遠不如東區。
隊友部分,Magic的隊友Kareem Abdul-Jabbar和James Worthy的實力是要強過Bird身旁的
Robert Parish與Kevin McHale,理由很簡單:Worthy, Parish及McHale都是五十大巨星
等級,實力差不多,但是Jabbar可是公認的史上前三人,身手大勝前述的三位球員。再加
上Magic的教練Pat Riley乃史上四大教練之一,完全不是Bird的教練K.C Jones可比擬的
,因此教練也是Magic的明顯較好。
拿著兩人中明顯較差的陣容,碰上明顯較強的對手,Bird的起跑點相比Magic吃了大虧。
然而,Bird依舊在當年帶隊拿下6次單季60勝的戰績,比Magic帶隊時的3次來得好。不要
小看60勝的戰績,它沒有你想得那樣好拿:舉例來說,Tim Duncan帶隊時僅有2次單季60
勝,有好幾年卡在58和59勝,甚至曾發生47-13,20-4和20-6的開局最終卻依然無緣60勝
的結果(球隊狀況急轉直下的程度堪比07-08賽季Chris Paul最後6戰4敗丟掉MVP的事實,
典型的虎頭蛇尾);當然,歷史上也是有出現過像是Michael Jordan或是LeBron James這
種僅打出28-13,8-7甚至5-6開局最後卻硬是把球隊戰績衝上60勝甚至65勝的案例。由此
可見Bird的6次60勝賽季有多麼了不起!
仔細檢視1980年代的時空背景,我們是可以體會到為何不少球評堅持魔鳥不分家,因為他
們顯然有考慮到對手和隊友的狀況。所以,儘管Magic成就的確較高,但也就只是小贏Bir
d而已,絕對沒有到高出一截的地步;直接以冠軍來說Magic成就高出Bird一截,顯然是不
客觀也不厚道的。
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恰好最近逛到一篇虎撲文章,內容挺有意思的,就把它轉來分享。
大意:
很多人看到5冠3MVP3FMVP比3冠3MVP2FMVP要多,就說Magic Johnson的成就明顯高過Larry
Bird。但是,考量兩人隊友教練差異,以至於1980年代的東強西弱局勢後,我們直接用冠
軍差距評價兩人是否對Bird不公平?
我們來看扣除湖塞兩隊後,80年代每個賽季東西區球隊戰績狀況(藍色代表東區佔優勢,
紅色代表西區佔優勢)。由於Bird在88-89賽季整季報銷後身手大衰退拖離巔峰,因此我們
只取樣到88-89賽季。
賽季 50勝球隊 55勝球隊 60勝球隊
1979-80 2-2 1-2 0-0
1980-81 3-2 2-0 2-0
1981-82 2-1 2-0 0-0
1982-83 2-2 1-0 1-0
1983-84 2-0 0-0 0-0
1984-85 2-1 2-0 0-0
1985-86 3-1 1-0 0-0
1986-87 3-1 1-1 0-0
1987-88 3-3 0-0 0-0
1988-89 4-2 2-1 1-0
這十年內,東區戰績佔優勢的次數和西區戰績佔優勢的比例大到17:1!尤其西區在81-86
年間除了湖人以外沒有任何球隊贏得55勝以上的戰績,同期的東區十年內卻有八年出現過
除了塞爾蒂克以外的55勝球隊!更不用說整個80年代西區就只有湖人拿過單季60勝戰績,
東區則是有過四支除了塞爾蒂克以外的60勝球隊。最扯的是80-81賽季,那時聯盟前三名
全部來自東區,且這三隊都有至少60勝!因此我們很明顯的可以看出,西區當年的競爭力
遠不如東區。
隊友部分,Magic的隊友Kareem Abdul-Jabbar和James Worthy的實力是要強過Bird身旁的
Robert Parish與Kevin McHale,理由很簡單:Worthy, Parish及McHale都是五十大巨星
等級,實力差不多,但是Jabbar可是公認的史上前三人,身手大勝前述的三位球員。再加
上Magic的教練Pat Riley乃史上四大教練之一,完全不是Bird的教練K.C Jones可比擬的
,因此教練也是Magic的明顯較好。
拿著兩人中明顯較差的陣容,碰上明顯較強的對手,Bird的起跑點相比Magic吃了大虧。
然而,Bird依舊在當年帶隊拿下6次單季60勝的戰績,比Magic帶隊時的3次來得好。不要
小看60勝的戰績,它沒有你想得那樣好拿:舉例來說,Tim Duncan帶隊時僅有2次單季60
勝,有好幾年卡在58和59勝,甚至曾發生47-13,20-4和20-6的開局最終卻依然無緣60勝
的結果(球隊狀況急轉直下的程度堪比07-08賽季Chris Paul最後6戰4敗丟掉MVP的事實,
典型的虎頭蛇尾);當然,歷史上也是有出現過像是Michael Jordan或是LeBron James這
種僅打出28-13,8-7甚至5-6開局最後卻硬是把球隊戰績衝上60勝甚至65勝的案例。由此
可見Bird的6次60勝賽季有多麼了不起!
仔細檢視1980年代的時空背景,我們是可以體會到為何不少球評堅持魔鳥不分家,因為他
們顯然有考慮到對手和隊友的狀況。所以,儘管Magic成就的確較高,但也就只是小贏Bir
d而已,絕對沒有到高出一截的地步;直接以冠軍來說Magic成就高出Bird一截,顯然是不
客觀也不厚道的。
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