※ 引述《littledos (litledos)》之銘言:
: 索沙今天8局失4分
: 看起來是中斷了開季以來連續6場QS的紀錄
: 無法達成連7場
: QS的定義是局數6局以上 失分3分以下
: 可是6局失3分 單場ERA是4.5
: 8局失4分 單場ERA也是4.5
: 多吃2局 多掉1分 ERA也一樣
: 貢獻了更多的局數 反而不是優質先發
: QS的算法是不是有問題?
昨天推文回文說 8局4責失不算QS 的鄉民們
全部被徐展元主播打臉囉!
https://tinyurl.com/y22eq8tw
我是展元,中職投手先發6局失自責分3分以內
(單場ERA:4.50),會給予【優質先發QS】紀錄
那8局失自責分4分以內(單場也是ERA:4.50)呢?
我之前問過聯盟紀錄組,答案是也會給QS紀錄!
我早在轉播時說過,這不是我發明的,我求證過!
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昨晚富邦洋投索沙8局失4分,聯盟官網賽後簡報
寫中止優質先發,我去問紀錄組,回答是寫錯了!
今天已經更正,索沙連續優質先發7場持續中~~
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中職紀錄組對於【優質先發】的標準沒有變過!
以前就是8局自責4分以內也有QS,現在也一樣!
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中職連續場次"優質先發"聯盟紀錄:
潘威倫(獅)連12場優質先發2005/9/2~2006/4/18
羅里奇(獅)連12場優質先發2018/3/28~2018/6/8
#中華職棒 #優質先發 #討論棒球是人生一大樂事
紀錄組傳訊息給我,說美國大聯盟也是同樣標準:
Quality Starts
Pros:
The reasons to use quality starts are easier to quantify and easier for me to talk about, since I prefer the category myself. First and foremost, quality starts are entirely dependent on the starting pitcher (and his defense) and have no connection to his team's offense. The pitcher has significant control on whether he gets a quality start or not and it is a good evaluator of a pitcher's performance. More on this later. Like wins and strikeouts, they are a counting stat to balance out the two rate stats
of ERA and WHIP. And while the minimum quality start of 6 innings with 3 earned runs is a poor 4.50 ERA, most quality starts actually have a much better ERA than that.
Cons:
That minimum requirement for a quality start is pretty bad. Furthermore, it is rigid and doesn't adjust with innings pitched. A better stat would require something like 5 innings with 2 ER or fewer, 6 innings with 2 ER or fewer, 7 innings with 3 ER or fewer, 8 innings with 3 ER or fewer, and 9 innings with 4 ER or fewer. Currently, a pitcher would not get a quality start for pitching 5 perfect innings and getting pulled, or even pitching nine innings with 4 ER, even though that is better than the 4.5
ERA you get in the basic QS.
Thus, managers with a quick hook become an issue. Tampa Bay last season is a great example, as their club philosophy was to pull starters before seeing the other lineup a third or fourth time, usually in the fifth inning. This was painful as a Nate Karns owner in a deep league with QS. He would pitch well for five innings and then be pulled. Another issue is that relievers can ruin a quality start. I can't count how many times my starter left in the seventh after allowing three or fewer runs and then a
reliever comes on and allows inherited runners to score, blowing the quality start.
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: 索沙今天8局失4分
: 看起來是中斷了開季以來連續6場QS的紀錄
: 無法達成連7場
: QS的定義是局數6局以上 失分3分以下
: 可是6局失3分 單場ERA是4.5
: 8局失4分 單場ERA也是4.5
: 多吃2局 多掉1分 ERA也一樣
: 貢獻了更多的局數 反而不是優質先發
: QS的算法是不是有問題?
昨天推文回文說 8局4責失不算QS 的鄉民們
全部被徐展元主播打臉囉!
https://tinyurl.com/y22eq8tw
我是展元,中職投手先發6局失自責分3分以內
(單場ERA:4.50),會給予【優質先發QS】紀錄
那8局失自責分4分以內(單場也是ERA:4.50)呢?
我之前問過聯盟紀錄組,答案是也會給QS紀錄!
我早在轉播時說過,這不是我發明的,我求證過!
----------------------------------------------------
昨晚富邦洋投索沙8局失4分,聯盟官網賽後簡報
寫中止優質先發,我去問紀錄組,回答是寫錯了!
今天已經更正,索沙連續優質先發7場持續中~~
----------------------------------------------------
中職紀錄組對於【優質先發】的標準沒有變過!
以前就是8局自責4分以內也有QS,現在也一樣!
----------------------------------------------------
中職連續場次"優質先發"聯盟紀錄:
潘威倫(獅)連12場優質先發2005/9/2~2006/4/18
羅里奇(獅)連12場優質先發2018/3/28~2018/6/8
#中華職棒 #優質先發 #討論棒球是人生一大樂事
紀錄組傳訊息給我,說美國大聯盟也是同樣標準:
Quality Starts
Pros:
The reasons to use quality starts are easier to quantify and easier for me to talk about, since I prefer the category myself. First and foremost, quality starts are entirely dependent on the starting pitcher (and his defense) and have no connection to his team's offense. The pitcher has significant control on whether he gets a quality start or not and it is a good evaluator of a pitcher's performance. More on this later. Like wins and strikeouts, they are a counting stat to balance out the two rate stats
of ERA and WHIP. And while the minimum quality start of 6 innings with 3 earned runs is a poor 4.50 ERA, most quality starts actually have a much better ERA than that.
Cons:
That minimum requirement for a quality start is pretty bad. Furthermore, it is rigid and doesn't adjust with innings pitched. A better stat would require something like 5 innings with 2 ER or fewer, 6 innings with 2 ER or fewer, 7 innings with 3 ER or fewer, 8 innings with 3 ER or fewer, and 9 innings with 4 ER or fewer. Currently, a pitcher would not get a quality start for pitching 5 perfect innings and getting pulled, or even pitching nine innings with 4 ER, even though that is better than the 4.5
ERA you get in the basic QS.
Thus, managers with a quick hook become an issue. Tampa Bay last season is a great example, as their club philosophy was to pull starters before seeing the other lineup a third or fourth time, usually in the fifth inning. This was painful as a Nate Karns owner in a deep league with QS. He would pitch well for five innings and then be pulled. Another issue is that relievers can ruin a quality start. I can't count how many times my starter left in the seventh after allowing three or fewer runs and then a
reliever comes on and allows inherited runners to score, blowing the quality start.
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